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Papanca!

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:45 pm

Two monks and a flag

Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind. One said, "The flag moves." The other said, "The wind moves." They argued back and forth but could not agree.

Unable to resolve their disagreement, they approached the abbot, to seek a resolution.

The abbot said, "Monks, it is your minds that are moving! Quit with the papanca monkey chatter and get back to your meditation"

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Retro. :)
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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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Re: Papanca!

Postby Ben » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:46 pm

Retro,
Did you make that up?
...he wondered whether there was any love between human beings that did not rest upon some sort of self-delusion.

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Re: Papanca!

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:48 pm

Greetings Ben,
Ben wrote:Retro,
Did you make that up?

Like all good stories, it borrowed heavily from other stories.

:D

http://www.101zenstories.org/enos-flag/

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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Re: Papanca!

Postby Ben » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:49 pm

Hmm...
I think I will go and meditate before the proliferation begins...
...he wondered whether there was any love between human beings that did not rest upon some sort of self-delusion.

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Re: Papanca!

Postby bodom » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:51 pm

One day this monk told Ajahn Chah the Zen story about the flag and the wind, and asked: Is it the flag that blows or is it the wind?" Ajahn Chah answered: "It's neither; it's the mind" The Korean monk thought that was wonderful and immediately bowed to Ajahn Chah. But then Ajahn Chah said he'd just read the story in the Thai translation of Hui Neng.


http://www.amaravati.org/fsn/html/09/9.htm

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Re: Papanca!

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:00 am

I like this story too :)

The topper to it was delivered by a chinese nun.

http://buddhism.about.com/od/whoswhoinb ... iaoxin.htm
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Re: Papanca!

Postby christopher::: » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:35 am

bodom wrote:
One day this monk told Ajahn Chah the Zen story about the flag and the wind, and asked: Is it the flag that blows or is it the wind?" Ajahn Chah answered: "It's neither; it's the mind" The Korean monk thought that was wonderful and immediately bowed to Ajahn Chah. But then Ajahn Chah said he'd just read the story in the Thai translation of Hui Neng.


http://www.amaravati.org/fsn/html/09/9.htm

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