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other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Ravi » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:16 pm

Greetings everyone,

I too am a former E-Sangha member. I was never banned. I just don't enjoy posting there anymore.

Anyway dear DW moderators, have you considered making this forum include sub-forums for all Buddhist traditions like on E-Sangha? I like the free, friendly atmosphere of your forum. It would be great to have a forum like this which would have discussion about all Buddhist traditions as an alternative to E-Sangha because the other big Buddhist sites like Buddha Chat no longer exist or have extremely few members. It would be a tremendous gift to the world's Buddhist community.

If you could get some selfless, kind ordained moderators from all major traditions (Zen, Tibetan, Pure Land, Tendai, etc.) that could be the seed from which this forum could evolve into E-Sangha's kind-hearted twin.

I wish you all the best of luck with your new forum. Buddhists of all traditions should live together in peace, harmony, and mutual respect.

May you all experience the blessings of the Three Jewels from now until Enlightenment.

P.S. Hiya, Nonin!
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby cooran » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:30 pm

The beauty of Dhamma Wheel is that it is a safe place for Theravadins and their friends to post and discuss the Dhamma as preserved in the Pali Canon - as well, as the teachings of modern Theravada figures.

There are hundreds of boards that have attempted to go 'multi-tradition' or universalist, and they usually ended up just as a poor copy of E-sangha, and wound down into silence.

I think Dhamma Wheel would lose its uniqueness if it altered the way it is currently presented and attempted to be all things to all people.

Glad to see you here Ravi - most of us weren't banned from E=sangha either, and still post there (- but I don't recall you ever posting on E-sangha). :smile:
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:23 pm

(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:30 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )


original name I guess?
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Dhammanando » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:34 pm

Hi Manapa,

Manapa wrote:
Mawkish1983 wrote:(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )


original name I guess?


No, Dharma Wheel is a new forum, launched by David, Dhamma Wheel's owner, a few hours ago. It is modelled on Dhamma Wheel but is intended for discussion of the Mahayana and Vajrayana schools.

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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:45 pm

I think it has the potential to be very helpful indeed. I really hope the link between Dhammawheel and Dharmawheel is made very VERY clear.

Maybe both should include a link to each other on the index page? Made super-clear?

Just a thought :)
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:53 pm

Dhammanando wrote:Hi Manapa,

Manapa wrote:
Mawkish1983 wrote:(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )


original name I guess?


No, Dharma Wheel is a new forum, launched by David, Dhamma Wheel's owner, a few hours ago. It is modelled on Dhamma Wheel but is intended for discussion of the Mahayana and Vajrayana schools.

Best wishes,
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I thought it was QE2 hadn't scrolled down to the bottom, maybe a connected room for intertradition topics? I don't know looks good
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:05 am

Mawkish1983 wrote:(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )


:spy: Pretty good sleuthing around. I see you found our latest venture before we even announced it! :stirthepot:
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:15 am

TheDhamma wrote:I see you found our latest venture before we even announced it!

:) I wish I was that good, but it was announced on Facebook
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Ravi » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:42 pm

Chris wrote: Glad to see you here Ravi - most of us weren't banned from E=sangha either, and still post there (- but I don't recall you ever posting on E-sangha). :smile:


I'm not using my E-Sangha screen name here. I heard that E-Sangha was banning people who posted on competing websites. I didn't want to be part of the witch hunt.

Mawkish1983 wrote:(hint: visit http://dharmawheel.net )


Cool! Thanks for the link Mawkish.

Hmm, a fresh, virgin, Buddhist forum...I can't wait to get my hands on her! :twothumbsup:
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:57 pm

Ravi wrote:I'm not using my E-Sangha screen name here. I heard that E-Sangha was banning people who posted on competing

What gave you that idea? A number of E-Sanga members (and moderators) post here... :spy:

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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:59 pm

Greetings,

mikenz66 wrote:What gave you that idea? A number of E-Sanger members (and moderators) post here... :spy:


Indeed.... and some like myself even work here, whilst my E-Sangha account remains perfectly intact.

Sadly it sounds like there's a bit of misinformation floating around the place... it's good to separate the facts from the fiction.

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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Ravi » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:42 pm

mikenz66 wrote:What gave you that idea?

http://esangha.110mb.com/

So, what exactly did happen in the Soto forum in E-Sangha? Or does the dark shadow of E-Sangha extend even here so no one will talk about it?

I don't see E-Sangha as entirely bad, but their inability to accept criticism and openly discuss and debate the direction of their website with their members is what I find highly suspicious.
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Fede » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:53 pm

Right Speech, people......

Render to Ceasar that which is Ceasar's.....

Isn't it about time we stopped indulging in tittle-tattle and gossip and just dealt with e-sangha when posting on e-sangha, and elsewhere when dealing with elsewhere?

It's tiresome and divisive.
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:31 pm

Ravi wrote:
mikenz66 wrote:What gave you that idea?

http://esangha.110mb.com/

So, what exactly did happen in the Soto forum in E-Sangha? Or does the dark shadow of E-Sangha extend even here so no one will talk about it?

I don't see E-Sangha as entirely bad, but their inability to accept criticism and openly discuss and debate the direction of their website with their members is what I find highly suspicious.

Interesting, but not exactly on topic here. :focus:

We are focusing on the Theravada here at Dhamma Wheel. Our new sister forum, http://www.DharmaWheel.net/ will focus on the Mahayana, so that may just be the best way to do the Buddhist forums. I don't know, we're still learning and growing . . . :sage: :rolleye: :ugeek: :popcorn: :reading: :namaste: :soap: :buddha1:
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:45 pm

Fede wrote:Just my nickel.

Can you claim it back on expenses? :)
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby clw_uk » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:48 pm

I think its good to have seperate websites

Im a member here and also at ZFI, buddhaforum and dharmawheel


The Mahayana sites i post in have always been very friendly and helpful, and i feel the same for mahayana followers who post here

I think this is because there is an understanding that each site is directed towards a particular tradition and understanding

So if one wants to discuss Theravada they can post here, if they want to discuss mahayana they can try the new site and so on for Zen etc

This way there is mutual respect for each other and friendly chat without any spats occuring based on a difference of views on the Buddhadhamma since one accepts what each site is geared towards and so its going to have a particular stance on certain things

I think this is the best way to go

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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:11 pm

hi clw
your post gave me a thought
it is a shame that there isn't a Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana, and Zen wheel, with a connected thread which each forum could converse with each other in a sort of inter-tradition dialogue don't think this would be possible in a technical sense without it being like E-sangha or another multi-traditional forum, but it would be a nice development, although currently not really possible.

clw_uk wrote:I think its good to have seperate websites

Im a member here and also at ZFI, buddhaforum and dharmawheel


The Mahayana sites i post in have always been very friendly and helpful, and i feel the same for mahayana followers who post here

I think this is because there is an understanding that each site is directed towards a particular tradition and understanding

So if one wants to discuss Theravada they can post here, if they want to discuss mahayana they can try the new site and so on for Zen etc

This way there is mutual respect for each other and friendly chat without any spats occuring based on a difference of views on the Buddhadhamma since one accepts what each site is geared towards and so its going to have a particular stance on certain things

I think this is the best way to go

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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Ravi » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:19 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Sadly it sounds like there's a bit of misinformation floating around the place... it's good to separate the facts from the fiction.

Yes, and when people are forced to be silent about these things, no misinformation can get corrected. Silence breeds suspicion.

Fede wrote:Isn't it about time we stopped indulging in tittle-tattle and gossip and just dealt with e-sangha when posting on e-sangha, and elsewhere when dealing with elsewhere?

I'd love to, but E-Sangha doesn't allow any discussions of this type on their website therefore I have no way of finding out what happened there. I didn't realize that the information black-out would extend to this website as well. Not many views will be allowed to be expressed if the same small group of people moderate every Buddhist forum on the net. How about some new blood for a change?

Anyway, whatever. Thanks for the info about dharmawheel.net. I'll check it out.
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Re: other Buddhist traditions on DW?

Postby Ben » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:33 pm

Hi Ravi

Its not so much a blackout. Some of us don't want to make public statements about the events late last year prior to the establishment of Dhamma Wheel. For a variety of reasons a lot of people came away from e-Sangha hurt, there is a concern that any discussion of past events will expose old wounds and some members will engage in wrong speech. Some of our members, such as Fede, have indicated they do not want to go over old ground. For them discussion of past perceived wrongs does not do anything for their practice and their understnding of the Dhamma.
I hope that helps.

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