Discussion of Samatha bhavana and Jhana bhavana.
by Modus.Ponens » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 am
I would like to ask for references for books (online or not) dealing with the jhanas as thaught by the Buddha (ie, with 5 senses
not shut down; please don't debate wether this is the correct jhana or not, here). Some small descriptions would be apreciated. The books don't necessarily have to be just about jhana, but should cover this topic with some depth.
I already have Ayya Khema's "Who is my self?".
Thank you in advance

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by tiltbillings » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:18 am
Not a practice book, but a book about jhana: THE EXPERIENCE OF SAMADHI by Richard Shankman. It does look at the controvesy of the sutta vs commentarial notions. It has interviews with various teachers. it may or may not be of interest. It can be gotten for under $10.00 on Amazon.
What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us
-- Dharmakirti
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.
Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
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by Moggalana » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:34 am

Chapter 10 wrote:The First Jhana
When you enter the first jhana you are still in touch with your physical senses. Your eyes are closed but you can still hear, smell, feel, and taste. This is one definite indication of the first jhana, as opposed to others.
Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.
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by bodom » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:28 am
Moggalana wrote:
Chapter 10 wrote:The First Jhana
When you enter the first jhana you are still in touch with your physical senses. Your eyes are closed but you can still hear, smell, feel, and taste. This is one definite indication of the first jhana, as opposed to others.
I also highly second tilt's recommendation. Richard Shankman's The Experience of Samadhi is excellent.
It can be read in part here:
http://books.google.com/books/about/The ... _ZzFgJ1AwCHere also is Beyond Mindfulness in Plain English which can also be read in part here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=UGzTsK ... milarbooks 
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by Ytrog » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:00 am
Mindfulness, bliss, and beyond -- Ajahn Brahm
I didn't know about "Beyond minfulness in plain English". I read "Minfulness in plain English" a few weeks ago (same author) and that was a very good book.
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mindfulness, bliss and beyond (page 8) wrote:Do not linger on the past. Do not keep carrying around coffins full of dead moments
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by Nicro » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:32 pm
Co sign "Beyond Mindfulness". Excellent book.
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by manas » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:56 am
Ytrog wrote:Mindfulness, bliss, and beyond -- Ajahn Brahm
I didn't know about "Beyond minfulness in plain English". I read "Minfulness in plain English" a few weeks ago (same author) and that was a very good book.
Hi Ytrog,
I think the OP specifically called for a book which
doesn't claim that the five senses are 'shut down' in first Jhana, which kind of rules out Ven. Ajahn Brahm's (otherwise very helpful) book.

When this is, that is.
From the arising of this comes the arising of that.
When this isn't, that isn't.
From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.
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by ground » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:56 am
Ytrog wrote:Mindfulness, bliss, and beyond -- Ajahn Brahm
Out of curiosity because it was mentioned here by a user in an interesting context I bought it. After having read it I am concluding that while it may be inspiring as to "how to approach concentration" the way the author presents his view/interpretations and the way he tries to support his view/interpretations with sutta references does not appear very convincing. Since this forum is called "suttanta method" the mention of this book may be misplaced here.
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by Jhana4 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:36 am
I've only gotten near the 1st Jhana so far, but I found "Focused and Fearless" by Shalia Catherine to be useful. It teaches all of the related concepts ( names and descriptions of various states of mind, etc ) without dumbing things done, yet is very clear. She offers loads of exercises, but the basic technique is to do anapanasati with the difference ( from insight practice ) of letting go of distractions as opposed to being aware of them and watching them pass.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.
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by Modus.Ponens » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:53 pm
Thank you for your sugestions, but please pay atention to the original post, where I asked for books on jhana as described in the suttas, ie, with the 5 senses not unactive.
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by daverupa » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:41 pm
Modus.Ponens wrote:Thank you for your sugestions, but please pay atention to the original post, where I asked for books on jhana as described in the suttas, ie, with the 5 senses not unactive.
You'll probably enjoy reading
this. I'm not sure if you'd seen that it was recently submitted to the Early Buddhism subforum.
"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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