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Sutta on Anger

Postby Epistemes » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:30 pm

Hi,

I'm returning to a practice of Buddhism. Sort of got into it about 12 years ago during my senior year in high school, now I'm almost 30 and looking for some direction from an old friend - namely, the Buddha.

The past 12 years have left me friendless, in debt, and horribly, horribly angry and resentful. There is very little peace within. I was hoping someone might point me in the direction of a sutta that deals with anger and resentment towards self and others - something that I can read multiple times and reflect upon. I have a copy of In the Buddha's Words if anyone knows anything in there that might help.

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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby cooran » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:35 pm

Hello Epistemes,

Please have a look at these suttas and articles at the link below and let us know what you think:

Anger. See also Conflict; Ill-will (vyapada); Kilesa (defilements); Khanti (patience); Metta (loving-kindness); Nivarana (hindrances); War.
As the only thing that's good to kill: SN 1.71
What to do if someone is angry with you: SN 7.2, SN 11.4
What to do when ~ arises: Thag 6.12
The best response to ~ (a debate between two deities): SN 11.5
~ can carve into you like an inscription in stone: AN 3.130
~ can never be conquered with more ~: SN 11.4, Dhp 3
"Anger" (Dhammapada XVII)
The dangers of giving in to ~: AN 7.60
The Elimination of Anger (Piyatissa)
Positive Response: How to Meet Evil with Good (Buddharakkhita)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-subject.html#anger

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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby altar » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:30 pm

i like bhante guaratana's talks/guided meditations, including metta.
he mentions several antidotes to ill-will, one of which is physical labor. of course, loving-kindness is the classic approach.
however, recently i have been interested in interpreting "ill-will" not merely as intense aversion, but also as an illness of will.
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby Epistemes » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:21 am

I've read through the suttas which you all have so graciously linked for me. Unfortunately, they don't explain much to help me in my current situation. While I can perceive more clearly the effects of anger, there seems to be little advice on how to avoid anger except to confront an angry person (myself) with patience.

I guess the only real answer to understanding why I'm so pissed off at everything and how to overcome that negative sensation is through meditation.
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:04 am

have a look at MN20 http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
MN58 http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
although a practice of meditation is always good, this would include sense restraint as-well as formal sitting, remember the buddhas advice

Dhp verse 362;“With hands restrained, feet restrained, and speech restrained, skilled in self control, inwardly settled, pleased & solitary of mind - this is said to be a mendicant.”

Dhp verse 183 “Do not perform any unskilful acts, skilful acts are the way of a mendicant, so purify your own mind - this is the wisdom the Buddhas teach”

Dhp.v.184 Forbearing long-standing stress is the greatest austerity, more-so is the superiority of nibbāna: this is what the Buddhas say.
Those gone-forth should not injure others, nor are they a contemplative if they tread the path of abusing another.

Dhp.v.185 Not insulting, nor injuring, restraint in line with the monastic precepts, Moderation with food, dwelling in seclusion, and dedication to the concentrated mind: this is the wisdom the Buddhas teach.

hope these help
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby andre9999 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:01 pm

Epistemes wrote:I guess the only real answer to understanding why I'm so pissed off at everything and how to overcome that negative sensation is through meditation.


Anger isn't a base emotion - there's some other emotion behind it that you'll see if you keep observing. Maybe you're hurt or embarrassed, or maybe you're insulted because someone doesn't subscribe to the same beliefs about who you are as a person.

Keep digging friend.
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby santa100 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:45 pm

Meditation is definitely the tool to be used. Also, don't forget physical excercises (especially aerobics ones like hiking, biking, swimming, jogging...) which are known to help reducing stress and keeping the mind sharp, mindful, and alert. Life is full of tough problems to solve. A fresh mind will help you approach the problem, analyze, test, and finally solve it accurately and effectively. Good luck..
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby nameless » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:38 pm

I found Mindfulness in plain English helpful, you might want to read through the parts "Dealing with problems" and "Dealing with distractions" if you don't want to go through the whole thing, though I would recommend it. Unfortunately there seems to be no section on anger specifically, but if you read about dealing with all the other stuff you might get an idea how to apply it to anger.
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby andre9999 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:19 pm

Epistemes wrote:I'm returning to a practice of Buddhism. Sort of got into it about 12 years ago during my senior year in high school, now I'm almost 30 and looking for some direction from an old friend - namely, the Buddha.

The past 12 years have left me friendless, in debt, and horribly, horribly angry and resentful. There is very little peace within.


We're not that different, you an me. I'm going to pile on with others here and strongly recommend metta meditation. While it probably won't do much about the cause (where the anger stems from), I think you'll find that it'll greatly help the symptom (the feelings and thoughts of anger).

Meditation showed me that nearly every thought I have about other people is angry. I haven't figured out why nor how to fix it, but I have found that metta meditation in the morning at least gets me off on the right foot.
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Re: Sutta on Anger

Postby dhammapal » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:36 am

Hi Epistemes,

When I'm feeling angry I often read aloud the Angulimala Sutta. I usually calm down by the end :)

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