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Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby clw_uk » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:52 pm

Greetings


Just a quick question really

Why is it some monks have their name as "Buddhadasa Bhikkhu" with the Bhikkhu at the end, but others like "Bhikkhu Bodhi" have it at the begining?

Is their any reason for this or is it just they way it gets written and spoken?


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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:51 pm

clw_uk wrote:Just a quick question really

Why is it some monks have their name as "Buddhadasa Bhikkhu" with the Bhikkhu at the end, but others like "Bhikkhu Bodhi" have it at the begining?

Is their any reason for this or is it just they way it gets written and spoken?

Good question. I imagine it is just cultural or personal preference of the bhikkhu.

Another similar question might be why do some use the title 'bhikkhu' and others 'bhante.' Of course, both apply as 'bhante' means 'Venerable.' For example, all of the monks here tend to use the 'bhikkhu' title when signing their names, but not 'bhante.'

I imagine it is their humbleness to which we can respond by using the bhante term back or both.
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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby Individual » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:23 pm

clw_uk wrote:Greetings


Just a quick question really

Why is it some monks have their name as "Buddhadasa Bhikkhu" with the Bhikkhu at the end, but others like "Bhikkhu Bodhi" have it at the begining?

Is their any reason for this or is it just they way it gets written and spoken?


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Some Asian language naming conventions tend to be the reverse of western naming conventions, so family name comes first and any titles go at the end. Monks sometimes use one or the other naming convention, but either works.

This was asked a while ago and my above response was originally just a guess, but Ven. Dhammanando confirmed it.
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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:35 am

Greetings,

Someone else this question elsewhere.

I think the Sri Lankan method is to put Bhikkhu first, and the Thai method is to put Bhikkhu last.

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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby SeerObserver » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:19 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Someone else this question elsewhere.

I think the Sri Lankan method is to put Bhikkhu first, and the Thai method is to put Bhikkhu last.

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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:44 pm

SeerObserver wrote:Which one is right?

The Sri Lankan way.

Just kidding, does there have to be a right way? :tongue:
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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby kc2dpt » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:00 pm

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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby Tex » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:55 pm

Here's the other thread, Ven Dhammanando's response was:

Just regional conventions. 'Bhikkhu' before the name is the norm in Sri Lanka and Burma; 'bhikkhu' after the name is the norm in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. That's assuming the word bhikkhu is used at all, which isn't always the case; in Asia one more often finds 'thera' or some regional title such as 'chao khun' or 'sayadaw' used instead.


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Re: Buddhadasa Bhikkhu - Bhikkhu Bodhi

Postby clw_uk » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:12 pm

Thanks Tex :smile:
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