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The Cow that Cried

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The Cow that Cried

Postby bodom » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:16 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby Ben » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:27 pm

Thank you Bodom

I think I've read that before. Its a prescient reminder of a scandal that has been going on here recently with footage of Australian cows being slaughtered in Indonesian abattoirs. The effect of the footage has been a huge public outrage and the Australian government to temporarily suspend live-exported beef cattle to Indonesia.

The following footage is extremely challenging and difficult to watch and has not only had the above effect but turned many Australian meat-eaters into vegetarians.
Another win for compassion.

BTW, thanks for sharing!

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby David2 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:55 pm

Nice story by Ajahn Brahm, thank you bodom.
Nasty footage, thank you Ben.
I am already a vegan... but what's better than being a vegan? Being a more convinced vegan I guess...

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby octathlon » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:29 pm

Great story, Bodom!

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:33 pm

It is a good STORY. Emphasis on story. I don't believe it really happened, but a good fable to make a point and reach the tender heart.

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:07 pm

is a well known Jātaka Story.

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby cooran » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:14 pm

Hello Metta4,

Here is Ajahn Brahmavamso on youtube personally telling this story of the man he spoke with. Having had house cows for years, I can tell you that they are much more intelligent than many credit, they feel all the emotions - just like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zFwqi2metI

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:55 am

It's not that I doubt the cow cried -- my grandparents had a farm and I know cows exhibit emotions. What I don't believe is that (1) this was the first time in his life he ever saw an animal express feeling (2) that a hardened murderer changed instantly as a result of seeing an animal exhibit emotions. I'm amazed you all completely misunderstood this. In other words, I just don't believe people change.

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Re: The Cow that Cried

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:22 pm

I don't believe basic character changes. Changing habits, perhaps. Changing character--no. You can believe what you like, of course. But after fifty-plus years of observation, I believe what i believe. And I've worked with addicts and criminals. And have known hundreds of Buddhists. Like I said, it's a nice story. :D

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Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:53 pm



I don't think there would be the diversity of life or humans without change. We all evolved from the same small band of early hominids in Africa. If there was no change, we would all have the same character and personality.

I have worked in a Federal prison and in law enforcement and think I know where you are coming from, M-4. It can seem sometimes that people never change and character never changes when you are working with addicts and criminals. Some are total experts at conning people and will lie with such a straight face and calm demeanor, it is pretty incredible sometimes. Many can even beat the polygraph tests. I have seen plenty of my former co-workers get a really hardened attitude toward them, that there is literally no hope for them, that "leopards don't change their spots" etc. But there are some (albeit, rare) cases of those who do change in the criminal world.
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