Sarvastivada Texts

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Sarvastivada Texts

Postby clw_uk » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:44 pm

Greetings


Does anyone know of anywhere where you can read the Sarvastivada version of the Sutta Nikaya?


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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:00 am

as far as im aware the only old texts that arent pali are some chinese agamas and some Pudgalavada stuff.. let me know what you come up with
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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:14 am

I believe that quite a lot of the Sarvastivada versions of the discourses are preserved in Chinese translation. Also their Abhidharma, which differs from the Theravada Abhidhamma. People such as Venerable Huifeng over on E-Sangha know quite a lot about this, but unless you can read Chinese it's not very accessible... [Of course, that means that it is actually accessible to a large number of people but not most of those on this Forum...]

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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

Postby sukhamanveti » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:35 am



Thank you for sharing the links, Dmytro. :smile: I didn't know that these were available online.

Hi clw_uk,

Not all of the Agamas that were translated into Chinese are Sarvastivadin. Andrew Skilton (A Concise History of Buddhism) says that the Ekottara Agama is thought to be Mahasanghika. Bhikkhu Sujato ("What the Buddha Really Taught") places a question mark after the identification "Mahasanghika." A.K. Warder (Indian Buddhism) argues that the Ekottara is Dharmaguptaka because it states that there are 250 rules for the monks, a number found only in the Dharmaguptaka Vinaya. The Dirgha in Chinese is thought to be Dharmaguptaka (B. Sujato, Warder, Skilton). An incomplete Samyukta is thought to be Kasyapiya (Warder).

For the Sarvastivadins, then, we have 1 Madhyama in Chinese, 1 complete Samyukta in Chinese, and 1 Dirgha in Sanskrit found in Afghanistan, according to Bhikkhu Sujato (Skilton & Warder are aware of the first 2, but the discovery of the Dirgha is too recent for their books to mention).

I hope that this info helps.

Ed

EDIT: There is another incomplete Samyukta in Chinese. No one knows where it comes from.
Sīlaṃ balaṃ appaṭimaṃ.
Sīlaṃ āvudhamuttamaṃ.
Sīlamābharaṇaṃ seṭṭhaṃ.
Sīlaṃ kavacamabbhutaṃ.


Virtue is a matchless power.
Virtue is the greatest weapon.
Virtue is the best adornment.
Virtue is a wonderful armor.

Theragatha 614


Sabbapāpassa akaraṇaṃ,
kusalassa upasampadā,
Sacittapariyodapanaṃ,
etaṃ buddhāna sāsanaṃ.


Refraining from all wrong-doing,
Undertaking the good,
Purifying the mind,
This is the teaching of the buddhas.

Dhammapada v. 183/14.5

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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

Postby sukhamanveti » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:48 am

P.S.: Warder says that there are Mahayana interpolations in the text of the Ekottara "as is universally agreed."
Sīlaṃ balaṃ appaṭimaṃ.
Sīlaṃ āvudhamuttamaṃ.
Sīlamābharaṇaṃ seṭṭhaṃ.
Sīlaṃ kavacamabbhutaṃ.


Virtue is a matchless power.
Virtue is the greatest weapon.
Virtue is the best adornment.
Virtue is a wonderful armor.

Theragatha 614


Sabbapāpassa akaraṇaṃ,
kusalassa upasampadā,
Sacittapariyodapanaṃ,
etaṃ buddhāna sāsanaṃ.


Refraining from all wrong-doing,
Undertaking the good,
Purifying the mind,
This is the teaching of the buddhas.

Dhammapada v. 183/14.5

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Re: Sarvastivada Texts

Postby clw_uk » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:19 pm

Hey guys


Thanks for the links and the info, been really helpful one again :D



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