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Meditation Poses

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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Meditation Poses

Postby FaceaceRAWR » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:19 am

I'm really having an issue here and it bothers my meditation endlessly! :juggling: I'm trying to find a good meditation pose and half-lotus seems to be my favorite, but it hurts [as well as the lotus] around the knees and I've tried whatever I've read. I'm aware I need to use my hips, but I can't seem to do it. Even in half-lotus. I know I probably shouldn't START with this and I'm not. I just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly before I regularly practice it, y'know? After reading about how it can cause permanent injury to my knees I'm really worried and It's hard to concentrate when I feel like I'm destroying my knees.

So, long story short: What is the proper way to do lotus/half-lotus without my knees hurting? Do I just have week knees? Any other recommended poses to help with my flexibility if that is the issue? Any tips or comments would be appreciated. I've been using the Lion pose in Yoga [without the growling] or the Hero pose lately and they aren't my cup of tea. I like green tea. :coffee:

Thanks in advance for any advice you could muster for a newbie.

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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby chownah » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:19 am

I can't sit in half lotus any more as my knees won't handle it. If you are under the age of about 40 it is likely that if you approximate the half lotus and you sit every day twice a day then after awhile you will develop more knee flexibility and you can then do the half lotus and you might be able to after another while be able to do full lotus.....but it takes time....and for some people it just ain't going to happen.

As for instructions on how to do it....well...there really isn't much technique and I'm sure someone here can give better instruction than me.
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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby cooran » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:28 am

Hello face...,

Meditation posture workshop
Please consider all the links in the left-side margin:
http://www.wildmind.org/posture

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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:41 am

I found this page useful too: http://www.mro.org/zmm/teachings/meditation.php

And see this thread for some more advice, including stretching from Ven Dhammanando
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 13&start=0

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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby Jonttu » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:20 pm

I once read from a yoga book that in order to avoid permanently hurting the knees, it's important to kind of lock them first when getting into the lotus pose. This assures that the knees don't bend in abnormal ways, and that the flexibility comes from the hips rather than from the knees. I've found that using this technique with a good zafu, I can sit an hour in lotus, with minor pain occuring only in the last 10 minutes of the session.

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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby daverupa » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 pm

The reason your knees hurt is because when your cross your legs without proper hip flexibility, the femur and tibia (which are normally aligned = parallel to each other) are tilted < like this, and the bones are pinching the menisci. This, over time, will ruin the knee(s).

The solution is to ensure that the two leg bones remain oriented appropriately. There are a number of solutions which are hard to describe solely with words; try and see if it helps.

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Postby FaceaceRAWR » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:46 pm

I understand. I just didn't want you to think I was going to be foolish and force myself into a pose before I let my mind clear.

I'm also searching for any information, by the way, and I'd love any you could offer. It's for this Word Document I'm starting so I can keep track of everything and eventually print it out. Even to share with anyone who is interested; I'm sure I won't need it by the time I finish it.

Thanks again for helping me to find the Burmese. :thumbsup:

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Re: Meditation Poses

Postby FaceaceRAWR » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:16 pm

After a bit of searching for a good guide to Vipassana meditation I came across this link. I'm not sure if there's a link-sharing place on this forum for useful links, but here it is in case anyone stumbles upon this thread looking for help with meditation.

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