Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

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Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby hellbeing » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:06 pm

Or must one lie prone & fouled in one's own excrement and urine?

:cry:

The king of the under world cross questions, asks for reasons and studies together with him thus. ‘Good man did you not see the first divine messenger among humans?’

He says ‘Sir I did not see.’

Then the king of the under world would ask him. ‘Good man didn’t you see a todler who stands and lies with difficulty, mingled in his own urine and excreta while lying?’

Devaduta Sutta

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:13 pm

Welcome to Dhammawheel :)

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:14 pm

Whether or not there is a lavatory is probably the least of the worries of the hell realms.

There are some other references to suttas describing hell rooms on this page: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... /loka.html

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby hellbeing » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:14 pm

Thank you. But I feel I have dwelt here in a past life. :anjali:

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby cooran » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:24 pm

Hello hellbeing,

There is an element of this thinking in all of us from time to time. No need to go on feelings, And if any part of the Teachings seems difficult to you, just set it aside for a while (without discounting it) and continue your practice.

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:42 pm

hellbeing wrote:Thank you. But I feel I have dwelt here in a past life. :anjali:


Sometimes there are elements in pop culture and shows which can help. Here is a great scene from the Lion King:



Dialogue elements:

Adult Simba: I know what I have to do. But going back will mean facing my past. I've been running from it for so long.

[Rafiki hits Simba on the head with his stick]

Adult Simba: Ow! Jeez, what was that for?

Rafiki: It doesn't matter. It's in the past.

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Ben » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:54 pm

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:04 pm

Plenty of lavatories here at Dhamma Wheel:

:toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :toilet: :toilet:

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby rowboat » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:54 am

It so happens that "excrement and urine" is an anagram for reenacted rune minx and cad reenter menu nix
Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby sattva » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:41 am

We have probably experienced all the realms.

Don't you think after a long time in a deva realm, if you fell into a lower realm, it would seem like hell? Might even make a person want to pursue the Dharma in order to transcend all realms. :anjali:

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:46 am

rowboat wrote:It so happens that "excrement and urine" is an anagram for reenacted rune minx and cad reenter menu nix


And ironically, Let me en is an anagram for Element.

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby alan » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:53 am

See? Just when I decided to be nice to people, element rears his ugly head.
element=unbelievable shamelessness! what motivates this guy?

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Dan74 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:08 am

Now this is seriously badass lower realm kamma - to push alan off his metta-pursuing path!

I hope that the fear of the lower realms he is heading for will turn element towards the brahmavihara of not harassing Dhamma Wheel.
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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Nicro » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:11 am

Wait, wait...What is wrong with this element guy?

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby alan » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:11 am

Alan is kick-ass serious in these matters! :smile:

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Kenshou » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:19 am

Nicro wrote:Wait, wait...What is wrong with this element guy?


He makes these kinds of dumb threads to try and get a rise out of us, overandoverandoverandoverand-

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:14 am

Nicro wrote:Wait, wait...What is wrong with this element guy?


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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby PeterB » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:39 am

As I recall there is a lavatory....but no paper. And the vent doesnt work..

Oh no hang on..thats a pub toilet I saw a while ago.

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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby cooran » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:54 am

:jumping:
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Re: Is there a lavatory in the hell realm?

Postby Lazy_eye » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:09 pm

It's in back of the Avici Starbucks. Where the coffee is always weak and the muffins stale.


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