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Meritorious Meditation

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Meritorious Meditation

Postby SeerObserver » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:58 pm

As some basic tenets, Buddhists are to cease evil, do good, and purify the mind. In various discussions points are brought up that certain temperament is being cultivated, as well as how one is at the very least not out committing akusala kamma while practicing right meditation, and other things along those lines.

But how exactly is meditation kusala kamma? The cultivation of a right temperament seems to contribute to that, but I seek to raise my understanding of this concept. Some good points have been made before, but I seem to have lost grasp of them at the moment.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:16 pm

Cool subject, Seer. In my tradition we're taught that meditating on emptiness generates merit :)


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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby puthujjana » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:22 pm

"Once you understand anatta, then the burden of life is gone. You’ll be at peace with the world. When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness and we can truly be happy."

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby SeerObserver » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:23 pm

It's possible that I was mistaken. It may have just been that I've seen mention of cessation of evil (at the very least during the session) and purification of the mind. I do thank everyone for their replies.

While that may be the case, I am interested to hear Drolma's reply regarding meditation on emptiness being meritorious whenever it is ready.

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 pm

Sorry Seer, I got distracted :juggling:

I've heard this several times so I will find out the reasoning behind it.


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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:24 pm

Greetings,

Metta (loving-kindness), karuna (compassion) and mudita are certainly all geared towards of kusala kamma. Because they also reduce the emphasis and focus of thoughts towards ourselves, they also assist in weakening the ego.

As for meditation on emptiness (or its components, anatta and anicca), I would say these are focused primarily on transcending the dominion of kamma and merit... and aiming straight at the heart of nibbana. Kusala kamma would be a secondary concern.

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:38 am

Greetings,

I just realised that my comment above is only true for non-arahants, who have yet to eradicate all vestiges of "self"... but I think you get the idea.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Meritorious Meditation

Postby puthujjana » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:26 am

Just another thought:

If you make the decision to meditate, you are doing it out of compassion and loving kindness for yourself. You see your own suffering and therefore you create compassion for yourself. The determination to meditate in order to overcome this suffering is loving kindness.

Besides, during meditation you are not doing akusala bodily (killing, stealing, sexual misconduct) or verbal actions (lying, slandering, rude speech, idle chatter).

:arrow: meditation is doing good and abstaining from evil deeds, which leads to the purification of the mind.

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