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Is this quote genuine?

Postby Stephen K » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:46 pm

“Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/let_us_ ... 99980.html


Was this really said by the Buddha, or is this one of those quotes wrongly attributed to him?
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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby nameless » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:59 pm

Sounds uncharacteristic.

Sickness and death are inevitable. As long as there is birth, there is sickness and death. An example of sickness in the suttas is as follows:

(2) And further, monks, a monk reflects thus: "I am now free from sickness, free from disease, my digestive power functions smoothly, my constitution is not too cool and not too hot, it is balanced and fit for making effort. But a time will come when this body will be in the grip of sickness. And one who is sick cannot easily contemplate upon the Teachings of the Buddha; it is not easy for him, to live in the wilderness or a forest or jungle, or in secluded dwellings. Before this undesirable condition, so unpleasant and disagreeable, approaches me, prior to that, let me muster my energy for achieving the unachieved, for attaining the unattained, for realizing the unrealized, so that, in the possession of that state, I shall live happily even in sickness."
— AN 5:78

Sickness is recognized as an inevitability, and we are offered advice for how to conduct ourselves when we are healthy, and not merely be 'grateful' for not being sick.
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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:43 pm

Sounds more like Saint Francis or Meister Eckhart doesn't it?

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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby Kim OHara » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:53 pm

I'm voting it is non-Buddhist. Two reasons:
1. "Rise up and be thankful"? Thankful to who?
2. Searching for a phrase from the quote got me a lot of junky 'famous quotation' sites and no Buddhist sites, and none of the attributions were more specific than 'The Buddha', i.e. no sutta/sutra references.

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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby Ben » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:39 pm

Hi Stefan
Good question. One needs to be very careful of quotes appended with "- Buddha".
All sorts of new age rubbish is attributed to the Buddha. On one facebook group which is populated by a number of very enthusiastic quotation regurgitators I have started asking probing questions such as "Can you provide a citation for that quote?"
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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:46 pm

Ben you should post on those websites this quote:

"Of whom do you know, foolish man, that I have taught to him the teaching in that manner? " --The Buddha


( From the Snake Simile Alagaddupama Sutta (MN 22) )

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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby Ben » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:52 pm

Ah thank you, M4, that is perfect!
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Greetings,

withing wrote:pain can be managed via convincing the mind that it isn't real.

Not so much that, but placing attention elsewhere.

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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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Re: Is this quote genuine?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:38 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

withing wrote:pain can be managed via convincing the mind that it isn't real.

Not so much that, but placing attention elsewhere.

Metta,
Retro. :)


Or, paying attention to pain with equanimity, recognizing it's not suffering, just sensation.
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