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Letting go of the idea of letting go of something - Dhamma Wheel

Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

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Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby Soe Win Htut » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:33 am

Nowadays, many meditators_yogi contemplate that mind, body, life or everything-etc; is impermanent, unsatisfactory and non-self.
Our intellect can understand any mind and body are not mine, yours, myself, and yourself. We understand that mind, body, life or everything is subject to change, impermanent, unsatisfactory and non-self.
But we still attach life, mind, body and the meditation method-etc; with firm likes and dislikes.
Why is our attachment to life, mind, body and the meditation method-etc; still being?
In our country especially in Myanmar, there are a lot of meditation centers and people have been practicing meditation methods taught by Buddha. After some time, they can let go of some worldly attachments but they become attaching firmly one's meditation method and meditation centre. Some are even becoming in more egotism about my way, my teacher, mine, yours etc,

In 2002, a monk has appeared in Myanmar to solve the problem in Myanmar. His name is U Ottamasara, Abbot of Than-lyin Natural Medtation Center, Yangon, Myanmar(Burma).
Now his teaching is becoming well known in Myanmar_Burma.

He teaches the Dhammaupassana, letting go of the idea of something, someone, somewhere, sometime as reality and as of real importance.(i.e. His teaching is just trying to abandon or discard the idea(mind-action) of centering, emphasizing, and attaching upon something, someone, somewhere, sometime and dualistic knowing such as hotness-coldness, pain-pleasure, good-bad, likes-dislikes, rising-falling, tightness-looseness etc; as reality and as of real importance).

If you want to learn more;
Here I would like to share his mp3 teaching:


Some more explanation about his teaching:


http://www.mediafire.com/?x078w45yh6maa6a
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Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby Ben » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:40 am

Thank you U Soe. I'll just move this thread into the Vipassana Bhavana forum where more people are likely to read and comment on it.
kind regards

Ben
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby chownah » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:38 pm

I have two thoughts about this.
1. Letting go of ideas is fine but what if someone at an early stage of the path decided to let go of the idea that it is time to sit and meditate since this is part of my practice. If they let go of this idea then they might stop mediating.....how about letting go of the idea that consuming intoxicants is detrimental?....might people then forget this?....I guess that maybe there is a time for letting go of some things.....don't let go of the raft before crossing the water I guess....
2. Is letting go of "letting go of the idea of letting go of something" a good idea?
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P.S. When I go to the second link in the original post the text is too wide to fit on my screen...it gives me a headache to keep panning back and forth to try to read it and make sense of it....doe anyone know how to fix this problem?
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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby Soe Win Htut » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:48 am

Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby chownah » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:39 am

Soe Win Htut ,
The title of this topic is "Letting go of the idea of letting go of something". I read the pdf file (thank you for providing that) but could not find any reference to "letting go" anywhere. I came back and re-read your original post and could find nothing that seemed to be talking about letting go of the idea of letting go of something....in fact it seems that you are commenting that the Dhammaupassana recommends letting go of things.

I'm confused....your post and the pdf you offered seem to have nothing to do with letting go of the idea of letting go of something which is the title of this topic.....does the title have nothing to do with what you want to discuss?........can you explain this?
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Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby Soe Win Htut » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:45 am

Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Postby Soe Win Htut » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:05 am

Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Re: Letting go of the idea of letting go of something

Postby PeterB » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:48 am

Two things leap out of this thread for me.
The first is the tendency to assume that if we have a profound experience with a particular teacher to further assume that he or she is the acme by which to judge all teachers.
The second is the tendency from some forum members who are extremely cagey about their own background in Vipassana and who will not be drawn on the subject, and who one suspects are self taught, to react to any discussion of the experiential by attempting to reduce it to verbal formulae that they are cosy with.
Discussion of Vipassana with someone self taught or taught from books is about as much use as discussion about dentistry with a self taught dentist.

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Last edited by Soe Win Htut on Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:28 am, edited 2 times in total.
Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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Postby Soe Win Htut » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:10 am

Awareness(mental noting) alone is not enough for enlightenment. (Ashin Tejaniya)
Created truths(Sammuti Sacca) are just to be used only, experienced only and known onlyWithout rejecting and attaching them with the idea of reality.
Vipassana (Insight meditation) is changing from the volitional action to action-only, attachment to detachment, misunderstanding to right understanding.
To Learn more....
http://www.thabarwa.org, or
http://www.thabarwa.org/guided-insight-mp3-talks/

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