Rules for nuns

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Cilla
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Rules for nuns

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Can anyone point me to the whole list of rules for nuns. I am curious. I know there is a lot of them. I'd really like to read that list.
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Bhikkhunī Pāṭimokkha
The Bhikkhunīs' Code of Discipline
translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu
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Thanks for that . I"ve just had a quick look. Pretty scary. Pretty culturally and historically specific aren't they. I wonder if there has ever been any move to update them.
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Yes I wonder who dreamed them up?
You seem deepy confident in your wisdom so maybe you can go through and cut out half of the really dumb ones .
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Cilla wrote:Thanks for that . I"ve just had a quick look. Pretty scary. Pretty culturally and historically specific aren't they.
Why would you think that the teachings would not exist within a cultural context. Given that women, in India at that time, were seen to be not much above chattel, the inclusion of women, even with these additional rules, which were a concession to the sexism of the day, the inclusion of women into the sangha and the inclusion of a body of texts by women into the Pali Canon was extremely radical at the time.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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robertk wrote:Yes I wonder who dreamed them up?
You seem deepy confident in your wisdom so maybe you can go through and cut out half of the really dumb ones .
Eight great precepts hanging on the wall, if one great precept would accidentally fall, there'd be seven great precepts hanging on the wall.
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If one great precept should accidentally fall, there'd be nun at all.
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:rofl: thank you, Bhante
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

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Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
robertk wrote:Yes I wonder who dreamed them up?
You seem deepy confident in your wisdom so maybe you can go through and cut out half of the really dumb ones .
Eight great precepts hanging on the wall, if one great precept would accidentally fall, there'd be seven great precepts hanging on the wall.
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If one great precept should accidentally fall, there'd be nun at all.
Does this refer to the eight garudhamma rules? Because those rules pretty much apply solely to Mahapajapati...
  • "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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