Theravāda in the 21st century - modern applications of ancient wisdom
by mirco » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:24 pm
Hi,
maybe someone can help me out:
I can remember having heard, that, not so long ago, there has been a meeting/convention, where representatives of many (all?) traditions have agreed, that the pali tipitaka is accepted the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools ?
Does someone maybe has any details on that?
Best Regards,
Mirco
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by daverupa » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:32 pm
"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
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by retrofuturist » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:39 pm
Greetings Mirco,
It's a question that might be well asked over at Dharma Wheel -
http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewforum.php?f=77 - to hear what Mahayanists have to say about it (after all, this is the "Discovering Theravada" section, so of course Theravada includes the Pali Canon).
I doubt you would find many Mahayanists accepting the Abhidhamma PItaka (the third basket of the Pali Canon) as "the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools", but don't take my word it... best ask them.
Metta,
Retro.

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by mikenz66 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:57 pm
retrofuturist wrote:I doubt you would find many Mahayanists accepting the Abhidhamma PItaka (the third basket of the Pali Canon) as "the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools", but don't take my word it... best ask them.
That's certainly true. Different schools have different canons and none of the lists on the Wikipedia page that Dave linked to give precedence to any particular canon.
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by mirco » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:59 pm
Thanks for the answers so far.

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by mirco » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:17 pm
daverupa wrote:You're thinking of
this.
Yeah, I was thinking of that. No Canon agreement in there. I see.
Thanks

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by PeterB » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:59 am
mirco wrote:Hi,
maybe someone can help me out:
I can remember having heard, that, not so long ago, there has been a meeting/convention, where representatives of many (all?) traditions have agreed, that the pali tipitaka is accepted the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools ?
Does someone maybe has any details on that?
Best Regards,
Mirco
Dzogchen would see many of those points as provisional, rather than as axiomatic.
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by retrofuturist » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am
Greetings,
As this topic has gone as far as it can go in a "Discovering Theravada" capacity, it's going to be moved out.
Metta,
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If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra PanyapatipoDharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum)
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by Zom » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:33 pm
I can remember having heard, that, not so long ago, there has been a meeting/convention, where representatives of many (all?) traditions have agreed, that the pali tipitaka is accepted the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools ?
Does someone maybe has any details on that?
Generally yes. But - from my expansive discussions on Dhamma/Dharma with mahayanists, I noticed that when you give them some direct sutta quotation from Pali Canon - they just don't listen, don't take it as a proof, as an argument, and continue to think that only mahayana statements are correct. That is to say - they will agree with suttas only when they fit in their mahayanist views. If there is a controversy - they just don't listen.

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by cooran » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:08 pm
Retrofuturist said: I doubt you would find many Mahayanists accepting the Abhidhamma PItaka (the third basket of the Pali Canon) as "the original teaching of the Buddha and is so to be use at least as the foundation for all traditions/schools"
Different schools have different Abhidhammas:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Abhidharma with metta
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