Eat beef?

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Eat beef?

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:28 am

Dear members,

Does Theravadist eat beef?

Are there rules for them what food can be eaten and what food cannot?

I heard from my Myanmar friend who studied in Thailand, the monks over there don't eat beef.

However, I am not very sure about it.
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Re: Eat beef?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:32 am

Greetings Darwid,

In the Vinaya there are prohibitions on certain meats, but not beef.

For lay practitioners there is no direct prohibition on any kind of meat.

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Re: Eat beef?

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:53 am

Hi Retro,

Do you have the link or some references for it, particularly for that vinaya?

What i am referring to is actually for monks.

This knowledge may be important as well in case we want to donate food to the monks.
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Re: Eat beef?

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:06 am

"I say that there are three instances in which meat should not be eaten: when it is seen, heard, or suspected that the living being has been slaughtered for the bhikkhu. I say that meat should not be eaten in these three instances. I say that there are three instances in which meat may be eaten: when it is not seen, not heard, and not suspected, that the living being has been slaughtered for the bhikkhu." Majjhima Nikaya 55.5

3 fold rule

Flesh from the following is not allowed, even if offered:
humans, elephants, horse, dog, snake, lion, tiger, leopard, bear, and hyena (Vinaya, Mahavagga VI.23.10-15)

The reason for the above appears to be from cultural reasons, looking unseemly to the lay people and also the scent of the flesh from these animals could attract other predators.

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Re: Eat beef?

Postby Ben » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:22 am

DarwidHalim wrote:I heard from my Myanmar friend who studied in Thailand, the monks over there don't eat beef.

No, there is no prohibition regarding beef and I witnessed monks in Myanmar being served various forms of meat for their lunch.
In the early 20th Century, Ledi Sayadaw wrote a short treatise "Cow Dhamma" which encouraged all Buddhists to refrain from eating beef. Perhaps your friend knows of monks who are within the Ledi lineage who may have taken his teachings to refrain from eating beef, to heart.
http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Ledi/Cows/cows.html
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Re: Eat beef?

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:38 am

Thanks David, it's very clear there.
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!


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