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Eat onion?

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Eat onion?

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:07 am

Dear Members,

Are there any rules about eating onions for monks in Theravada tradition?
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Postby retrofuturist » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:33 am

Greetings,

Would that then prohibit the use of any onion (or onion powder) whatsoever in curries etc?

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Re: Eat onion?

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:59 am

Thanks for the link.

After reading that, I think we can imply that eating onions are not encouraged.

This can be understood from Buddha answered to Sariputta, I allow .....

The second reason is yogic do not eat onion because onions affect the stability of their mind. Since Siddharta Gautama was also a yogic, he should share same rules.

I have a friend who is from Brahmin caste from India. All of their family dont eat onions. When they cook curry, it doesn't have oniOns.

If I can conclude eating onions probably can be considered as a soft rule. If you can, then avoid it, but not a must.
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:05 am

Isn't that a Mahayana text?

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:25 am

Hmm, OK, interesting. I know that the Mahayana texts have all kinds of stuff about garlic and onions...

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:32 am

Chapter 7 of the Mhayana Nirvana Sutra (translated by Kosho Yamamoto and edited by Dr. Tony Page) states:

"One who eats meat kills the seed of great compassion... O Kasyapa! I, from now on, tell my disciples to refrain from eating any kind of meat. O Kasyapa! When one eats meat, this gives out the smell of meat while one is walking, standing, sitting or reclining. People smell this and become fearful. This is as when one comes near a lion. One sees and smells the lion, and fear arises. O good man! When one eats garlic, the dirty smell is unbearable. Other people notice it. They smell the bad smell. They leave that person and go away. Even from far off, people hate to see such a person. They will not come near him. It is the same with one who eats meat. It is a similar situation with all people who, on smelling the meat, become afraid and entertain the thought of death. All living things in the water, on land and in the sky desert such a person and run away. They say that this person is their enemy. Hence the Bodhisattva does not eat meat."

And then there is this:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.ph ... 12&start=0

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby Sylvester » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:43 am

Hee, hee. I think the great Rhys Davids forgot to consult his own PED when he translated "lasuṇa" in that rule to read as "onion". The PED lists it as "garlic".

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Re: Eat onion?

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Re: Eat onion?

Postby Sylvester » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:19 am

One has rings, the other is arranged in cloves. How could they be mistaken? But these vegetables were certainly classified among the "5 pungents" that are discouraged in Mahayana monastic practice.

I wonder why the monk demurred after a meal of garlic. Bad breath or flatulence?

Some enigmatic translations persist that refer to "corn" in the ancient Indian landscape. I thought maize was unknown in the Old World before Columbus et al...

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Re: Eat onion?

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