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Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:58 pm

Hello all,

In Abhidhamma Piṭaka, Puggalapaññattipāḷi, first page, it says that Aggregates, spheres, elements, truths, faculties, and people are concepts.

Cha paññattiyo – khandhapaññatti, āyatanapaññatti, dhātupaññatti, saccapaññatti, indriyapaññatti, puggalapaññattīti.

1) Does this mean that these are concepts (paññatti) from the teaching of Abhidhamma Pitaka?
2) Why is concept of person is put in the same category as concept of aggregates, spheres, elements, truths, faculties?

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Re: Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby cooran » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:00 pm

Hello Alex,

Can you give a link to both the Pali and English translations you are using please?

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Re: Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:46 pm

Hello Cooran,

It is first page of Puggalapannatti if anyone has that book, they can read it in English. I have both the book and pali form (from CST 4.0 ).
http://www.tipitaka.org/cst4

Here is pali.

1. Cha paññattiyo – khandhapaññatti, āyatanapaññatti, dhātupaññatti, saccapaññatti, indriyapaññatti, puggalapaññattīti.
http://tutor.ksana.tw/cgi-bin/accelon3. ... cerpt=0&t=

cha- six
paññatti - designation; name; concept; idea; a regulation.
khandha = aggregates
āyatana = spheres
dhātu = elements
sacca = truths
indriya = faculties
puggala = an individual; a person.
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Re: Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:21 pm

It is a short passage If you can copy out the Pali, you can give the English translation as well.

Alex123 wrote:Hello Cooran,

It is first page of Puggalapannatti if anyone has that book, they can read it in English. I have both the book and pali form (from CST 4.0 ).
http://www.tipitaka.org/cst4

Here is pali.

1. Cha paññattiyo – khandhapaññatti, āyatanapaññatti, dhātupaññatti, saccapaññatti, indriyapaññatti, puggalapaññattīti.
http://tutor.ksana.tw/cgi-bin/accelon3. ... cerpt=0&t=

cha- six
paññatti - designation; name; concept; idea; a regulation.
khandha = aggregates
āyatana = spheres
dhātu = elements
sacca = truths
indriya = faculties
puggala = an individual; a person.

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pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us

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SN I, 38.

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Re: Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:04 pm

"The six designations are -The notion of the aggregates, the notion of the bases, the notion of the elements, the notion of the truths, the notion of the faculties, and the notion of human types" - Puggalapannattipali (with english translation) book that I have.

These are all paññatti .
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Re: Concept of Aggregates, Spheres, Elements, Truths, Faculties,

Postby theY » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:15 am

I have contributed your question to http://tipitakanews.org/en/node/26#comment-7

And I answered on that topic, too.
Lesson Relationship of Abhidhammatthasaṅgaha (10/31/2012)
http://tipitakanews.org/en/node/61
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