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white noise / earplugs?

Postby delf7 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:30 pm

i am nearly finished reading "mindfulness in plain english"- then i will be ready to start my practice. i have been trying to think of the best place to sit quietly. in my house, there are few places i can think of that will be without some sort of noisy distractions. when the weather turns nice again, i have a nice quiet spot on my property in mind (i live in the country, very isolated, which is nice), so that won't be a problem, but with winter coming on, i'll be sitting indoors. my wife always has the radio on, which can be heard all over the house, and we have 7 cats that are always running around.
i found a place in the basement (my home gym) which is fairly quiet except for the furnace popping on & off. i was toying with recording some kind of "white noise" or ambient "music" i could have on that would act to drown out the distractions, but then i thought "what about earplugs?" anyone use them? the only down side to this idea i can think of is the sounds inside your head such as breathing, a cough, swallowing, etc.. get amplified with earplugs, which might be just as annoying as the furnace.
any suggestions?
thank you.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby bodom » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:36 pm

Whats wrong with noise? If you don't bother the noise the noise won't bother you.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby delf7 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:52 pm

good point, it's just that i have read so many times that a quiet setting is perferred.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby santa100 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:19 pm

Beside finding the best place, also try to find the best time when the noise is minimal. Unless you meditate in a sound-proof cabin deep in the jungle, it's impossible to get rid of ALL noises. So, try to live with the least annoying noise. Meditate with the earplugs and then without them to see if you could handle the funace noise better, or your breathing and swallowing better. Good luck..

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby Goofaholix » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:33 pm

It's best to understand that noise is part of the meditation, you should be aware of it as hearing not as noise, emphasise the process taking place in the mind and body.

Having said that the a radio is a bit hard to contend with when you are just starting out, do you think your wife might be persuaded to turn it off for an hour or so per day?

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby Zom » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:06 pm

Quiet place is important.

However, as I found out for myself, earplugs won't help. When I use them, I hear my heart beating and this is much worse for me than some outer noise :popcorn:

I remember cool days in Thailand visiting one cave monastery in the South. Very quiet, very good for practice.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby bodom » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:20 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby Ben » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:57 pm

Time your meditation when everyone in your household is in bed.
Before dawn and after lights-out. This will eliminate a lot of the gross disturbances.
The discipline of doing this will also aid your adhitthana (strong determination).

As for the noise of your funace turning on and off - you need to consider how much of a disturbance it will be. And the same goes for the sound of your heart beat and breathing (if wearing ear-plugs).
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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:09 pm

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby alan » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:05 am

I hate noise, but also suffer from tinnitus (ringing in the ears), so there is nowhere but the beach where I am free from it. So I put on a CD of crashing waves when I sleep. Also have a nice one of rain. It really helps. You can use these to create some white noise when you sit.
By the way, I hate noise so much that I carry earplugs with my at all times. I usually put them in when I'm outdoors--even a truck rumbling by sounds extremely loud and annoying without them.
I also put on some Jazz when I'm online. Don't know how I'd function without it.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby alan » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:41 am

White noise is actually an innocuous background sound, like crashing waves.
There is no such thing as "dark noise". You just made that up.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby Fede » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:40 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:47 pm

Geez. And I was going top complain about my arthritis pain. I'll be quiet now.

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Re: white noise / earplugs?

Postby Fede » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:36 am

Well of course I work with it.
Tell me what other choice I have!

But it's intrusive, occasionally inhibiting - I can't hear people properly - and when I have a head-cold and my sinuses are blocked, it's the devil's own job overcoming the discomfort.

My audiologist says it's one of the worst cases he's come across..... but he's fascinated as to how I remain so calm.
And that's precisely what I told him.
I have to work with it.
I have no other choice.
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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