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Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby KathyC » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:05 pm

I'm wondering if anyone could possibly help me. I am looking for a quote. I think it was from the Buddha. The general topic was that all beings, unless awakened, were mad. It made some reference to beings being like sticky lumps of dough. Does anyone have any idea where this was from? Or is it my frazzled memory!

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Re: Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:49 pm

KathyC wrote:I'm wondering if anyone could possibly help me. I am looking for a quote. I think it was from the Buddha. The general topic was that all beings, unless awakened, were mad. It made some reference to beings being like sticky lumps of dough. Does anyone have any idea where this was from? Or is it my frazzled memory!
It is not your frazzled memory, just a half-baked idea. I don't know about the two lumps of dough, but the idea that all worldlings (puthujjanā) are mad, in the sense of having no control over their minds, is a common statement. It comes from the Commentary though, so may not be the direct words of the Buddha.

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The commentary of Majjhima Nikaya ‘Papancasudani’ says that – “All worldly beings are deranged”, “Sabbe puthujjana ummataka”
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Re: Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby KathyC » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:50 am

Thank you. That rings a bell. I have no idea where the dough came into it. Thanks again, Kathy
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Re: Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby KathyC » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:16 am

I have just been told that the 'sticky ball of dough' idea is related to a literal translation of puthujjana. Maybe not as half-baked as I thought.
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Re: Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:46 am

Greetings,

KathyC wrote:Maybe not as half-baked as I thought.

In that case, not baked at all!

:rofl:

Bhikkhu Pesala's puns are cool. 8-)

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Re: Quote about beings being like sticky lumps of dough

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:47 am

KathyC wrote:I have just been told that the 'sticky ball of dough' idea is related to a literal translation of puthujjana. Maybe not as half-baked as I thought.

I don't know of any such etymology. Puthujjana just means "the common man." See also the entry for puthu.
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