What does Phra mean?

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What does Phra mean?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 01, 2009 11:15 pm

just what it says on the tin what does Phra Mean cant find a meaning anywhere? I was asked before by my partner and when I tryed to look it up couldn't find anything.

feel a bit dozzy for it as it is something I see quite often and never found out about.
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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby appicchato » Sat May 02, 2009 12:53 am

Manapa wrote:just what it says on the tin what does Phra Mean cant find a meaning anywhere? I was asked before by my partner and when I tryed to look it up couldn't find anything.

feel a bit dozzy for it as it is something I see quite often and never found out about.


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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby Dhammanando » Sat May 02, 2009 1:41 am

It's the Thai pronunciation of the Sanskrit or Pali bara, which is an alternative spelling of the more common vara. Vara can be either an adjective meaning excellent or a noun meaning a boon or blessing.
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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby appicchato » Sat May 02, 2009 3:47 am

Looks like I stepped in it there...

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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby floating_abu » Sat May 02, 2009 4:21 am

appicchato wrote:Looks like I stepped in it there...

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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 02, 2009 3:39 pm

Dhammanando wrote:It's the Thai pronunciation of the Sanskrit or Pali bara, which is an alternative spelling of the more common vara. Vara can be either an adjective meaning excellent or a noun meaning a boon or blessing.


so what would it be when with a monks name such as Phra Manapa (not trying to be conceited or anything just an example honest :tongue: ) could it be blessed so&so

I have seen it mainly ascociated with buildings in my search yesterday but the question came from its use with a name which I have come across more often.
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Re: What does Phra mean?

Postby gavesako » Sat May 02, 2009 3:48 pm

See the third paragraph in this text by Ajahn Chah:

http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Path_Peace.php

Once ordained as Buddhist monastics, on the conventional level we are called monks and given the title 'Venerable'5; but simply having taken on the external appearance of monks does not make us truly venerable. Being monks on the conventional level means we are monks as far as our physical appearance goes. Simply by shaving our heads and putting on brown robes we are called 'Venerable', but that which is truly worthy of veneration has not yet arisen within us - we are still only 'Venerable' in name. It's the same as when they mould cement or cast brass into a Buddha image: they call it a Buddha, but it isn't really that. It's just metal, wood, wax or stone. That's the way conventional reality is.
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Kiṃkusalagavesī anuttaraṃ santivarapadaṃ pariyesamāno... (MN 26)

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