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Sutta about not listening to music

Postby pedro1985 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:29 am

Is there a sutta why it is better to not listen to music?

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:11 am

Unless one is a monk, I certainly hope not.

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:27 am

Hello,

The Uposatha Sutta includes not seeking out music or entertainment as one of the training rules of the eight precepts and may be found here:

I'll look to see what I can find but this may be it. Mettaya!
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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby Alobha » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:02 pm

What's the reason the buddha had for recommending not listening to music? I tried finding out in the patimokkha but didn't find anything except for the uposatha rule.

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby Otsom » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:17 pm

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby alan » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:54 am

In the Buddha's time, you would have had to make a journey to seek out music, and it is fair to say that passions and attachments would inevitably result. Makes sense to ban it for monks.
Having said that, I can't see any reason for a lay person to avoid music.
In fact, I think some music is actually helpful if it brings joy and is motivational.
Jazz, anyone? I love it. If Louis Armstrong is bad, then I don't want to be good.

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby danieLion » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:54 am

Hi pedro1985,
I used to listen to music a lot. Now, if I'm not careful (practice some restraint) songs get stuck in my head and play like loops, including while I sit.
Sorry it's not a sutta reference.
Daniel :heart:

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby Beneath the Wheel » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:45 pm

Very strange. I copied and pasted that directly from the "The Buddhist Monastic Code II". I wonder if he listed the wrong source?

Similar to what danieLion mentioned - I'm a musician, and one of the biggest barriers to my meditation practice comes from getting certain segments of songs stuck in my head, looping endlessly. I find this fades if I'm not actively working or rehearsing with a group, but random drumbeats and "hooks" will find their way into my mind at the strangest times. I guess that's why they call them hooks.

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

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Re: Sutta about not listening to music

Postby Fede » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:55 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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