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Translation please

Postby Cittasanto » Mon May 04, 2009 9:00 am

What would be the Pali for Wherever you throw me I will stand?

thanks in advance

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“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
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Re: Translation please

Postby Dhammanando » Mon May 04, 2009 11:47 am

yattha katthaci tvaṃ maṃ khipeyyāsi, tatth’āhaṃ tiṭṭheyyuṃ.


Or more poetically:


yena maṃ khipeyyāsi, tena ṭhassām’ahaṃ.


But I wonder, is it the Latin motto quocunque jeceris stabit that you have in mind? If so, then that would be simply:

yattha naṃ khipeyyāsi, tattha ṭhassati.
    Yathā bubbuḷakaṃ passe, yathā passe marīcikaṃ,
    Evaṃ lokaṃ avekkhantaṃ, maccurājā na passati.

    One should see it as a bubble;
    One should see it as a mirage.
    Who regards the world thus
    The King of Death sees him not.
    (Dhammapada 170)


    ผู้ที่มองเห็นโลก ว่าไม่จีรังและหาสาระอะไรมิได้
    เช่นเดียวกับคนมองฟองน้ำและพยับแดด
    คนเช่นนี้พญามารย่อมตามหาไม่พบ ฯ
    (ธรรมบท ๑๗๐)

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Re: Translation please

Postby Cittasanto » Tue May 05, 2009 12:24 pm

Thanks Bhante
There is a group trying or were trying to have the latin changed as they reckoned it had a simple schoolboy grammar mistake and didn't translate as the actual motto. the words I use are a slightly different version with the personal Me and I, but the motto is IT instead.
I do like the dhammic resonance of the motto though

Dhammanando wrote:yattha katthaci tvaṃ maṃ khipeyyāsi, tatth’āhaṃ tiṭṭheyyuṃ.


Or more poetically:

yena maṃ khipeyyāsi, tena ṭhassām’ahaṃ.

But I wonder, is it the Latin motto quocunque jeceris stabit that you have in mind? If so, then that would be simply:

yattha naṃ khipeyyāsi, tattha ṭhassati.
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
"Others will misconstrue reality based on personal perspectives, firmly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our personal perspectives, nor firmly holding them, but easily discarded."


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