The consequence for using intoxicants

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Re: The consequence for using intoxicants

Postby clw_uk » Tue May 05, 2009 9:39 pm

Greetings

Does anyone know if the Buddha give any adivce on how to overcome desire for alcohol (and other substances)?

Ive had trouble with drink and drugs in the past and was wondering if there is any kind of meditation or recollection that helps with overcoming desire for them, since i still get very strong cravings for them that still effects me from time to time that doesnt seem to go away

Im aware of the numerous discourses that stress the draw backs of sensual pleasure but is there any kind of direct contemplation? or are there even modern teachings that deal with it?


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Re: The consequence for using intoxicants

Postby Cittasanto » Tue May 05, 2009 10:01 pm

Without looking for it there is a sutta where the Buddha advises a king I think it was to use Mindfulness to overcome his overeating.

clw_uk wrote:Greetings

Does anyone know if the Buddha give any adivce on how to overcome desire for alcohol (and other substances)?

Ive had trouble with drink and drugs in the past and was wondering if there is any kind of meditation or recollection that helps with overcoming desire for them, since i still get very strong cravings for them that still effects me from time to time

Im aware of the numerous discourses that stress the draw backs of sensual pleasure but is there any kind of direct contemplation? or are there even modern teachings that deal with it?


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Re: The consequence for using intoxicants

Postby clw_uk » Tue May 05, 2009 10:29 pm

Thanks Manapa :smile:


On a further note, is smoking considered a breaking of the 5th precept?


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Re: The consequence for using intoxicants

Postby retrofuturist » Tue May 05, 2009 10:55 pm

Greetings Craig,

No, it's not.

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Re: The consequence for using intoxicants

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