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How Do Theravadins View Hell?

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How Do Theravadins View Hell?

Postby fragrant herbs » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:28 pm

Not sure if I ever asked this in the past, but do Theravadins view hell as a real place where you suffer until you die, or is it like this earthplane where you have moments of suffering, some more than others, due to their karma?

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Re: How Do Theravadins View Hell?

Postby cooran » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:27 am

Hello fh, all,

This information is worth reading:

Scroll down to States of Deprivation
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... .html#kama

The Sensuous World (kama-loka).
Consists of eleven realms in which experience — both pleasurable and not — is dominated by the five senses. Seven of these realms are favorable destinations, and include our own human realm as well as several realms occupied by devas. The lowest realms are the four "bad" destinations, which include the animal and hell realms.

It is pointless to debate whether these realms are real or simply fanciful metaphors that describe the various mind-states we might experience in this lifetime. The real message of this cosmology is this: unless we take steps to break free of the iron grip of kamma, we are doomed to wander aimlessly from one state to another, with true peace and satisfaction forever out of reach. The Buddha's revolutionary discovery came in finding that there is a way to break free: the Noble Eightfold Path, which equips us with precisely the tools we need to escape from this wearisome wandering, once and for all, to a true and unshakeable freedom.
http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/200 ... tence.html

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Re: How Do Theravadins View Hell?

Postby santa100 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:20 pm

The two should not be mutually exclusive of each other. Take Human Realm and Animal Realm for example. They're certainly 2 physical objective realms that are observable to the naked eyes. And at the same time, right within the Human Realm, we could witness countless instances where humans think and behave just like animals. Extending the logic to the other 6 realms, chances are that they're also both concrete objective and mind-states realms. It's just that our eyes are way to primitive to be able to see all of them just yet..

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Re: How Do Theravadins View Hell?

Postby namaste » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:15 pm

Here is why I'm asking; because Bhikku Bodhi's opinion isn't shared by his colleagues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJVYL-me_c
Here is a third opinion: K. Sri Dhammananda MahaThera says it's both-and, not either-or:
http://www.budsas.org/ebud/whatbudbeliev/303.htm

It seems odd that the monks in the video wouldn't be aware that the scriptures describe hell realms as literal places. I didn't know whom to believe until the discussion on this thread, which was helpful. I gather that most contemporary practitioners view them as metaphorical, no matter what the scriptures actually say. Probably due in part to the scientific age in which we live.

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Re: How Do Theravadins View Hell?

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:43 pm

There seem to be enough variety of Theravada viewpoints on this thread to draw it to a close.

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