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Postby Cittasanto » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:54 am

It is easy to forget the difference between a sustained practice and a sustainable practice.
a retreat/sustained practice is more for nourishing the sustainable practice, and keeping it on-track & alive, a long term goal has many short term achievements to meet.


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Recent retreat experience

Postby Ben » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:58 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the post-retreat report. Sounds like it was an extremely productive time for you.
Practicing in the rarified environment of a retreat is a very different kettle of fish than practice in daily life. And although I come from a tradition which is emphasizes technique (in the beginning), its actually the wisdom or the quality of observation that one takes into daily life that is important. As you knnow, Ledi Sayadaw, referred to meditation as "insight exercises" which I believe is indicative of its role and function.

I think its great that with the assistance of Bhante, you were able to diagnose a significant issue with regards to your practice. My observation has been that many people tend to get stuck in some comfortable groove and their practice becomes a mechanical and familiar plateux. I think the development of genuine objective self-analysis is fundamental for continued progress.
Thanks again for sharing.
With metta,

Ben
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Postby cooran » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:49 pm

Hello Mike,

Sounds like a productive retreat. A little on the corruptions of insight by Mahasi Sayadaw:

The Progress of Insight (Visuddhiñana-katha) by The Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw translated from the Pali with Notes by Nyanaponika Thera http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... gress.html

Some years ago, I found that there is nothing like working in the Emergency Dept. of a large metro hospital and being confronted daily with all aspects of dead bodies, dying people, and grieving rellies. It certainly brings about an 'urgency' in ones practice.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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:thumbsup: +1

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Greetings Mike,

Sweet. Yoniso manasikara is cool. 8-)

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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