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A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Anagarika » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:59 pm


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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Ytrog » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:25 pm

I'm curious about what exactly the difference is between a lay follower who has taken the five precepts and an Upāsaka who has also taken the five precepts?

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:37 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby JackV » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:38 pm

Here where a thousand
captains swore grand conquest
Tall grasses their monument.

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Buddho » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:37 pm

As far as preparation the most important thing is to keep at least the 8 precepts and be practicing meditation. I don't believe your expected to support yourself but I would recommend having saved money for visa runs if your in another country.

Doing various chores and cleaning is dana. Giving your time and energy to the monks, laity, and the Wat is dana. You really don't need much when at a Wat most of the requisites are provided for.

Everything is a learning process you are NOT expected to know all the customs. Training is all apart of being an anagarika and the preparatory period of becoming a monk. I would suggest you spend more time at a Wat to learn chanting.

Check out this video might help to answer more of your questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittQd5zk ... plpp_video

I'm also looking to go to Thailand in April to ordain. I've spent two months in a Wat in California. :anjali:

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Ytrog » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:43 pm


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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby JackV » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:00 pm

Here where a thousand
captains swore grand conquest
Tall grasses their monument.

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Bankei » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:06 pm

The anagarika is a modern invention. Just a person with a shaved head.

Why not just become a monk? How many anagarikas do you read about in the Sutta?
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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby James the Giant » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:46 am

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:06 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Disillusioned » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:16 am

Hello Ytrog,

I spent the past 18 months living at a Thai Forest monastery and was ordained as an anagarika for the last year of my stay. Typically you have to stay at the monastery for a while before they ordain you as an anagarika. They want to make sure you're for real about it, because a lot of people come in saying they want to ordain and then they end up leaving after only a few weeks. I had to stay for about 9 months.

I've heard interesting things about Chithurst, the way they rotate where people live every six weeks. Are you familiar with that? Also I had the chance to meet Ajahn Sucito. He's a very sweet monk.

In terms of preparation, I'd just keep the five precepts and meditate. Before I left I kept the eight and it turned out to be more of a burden than anything else. It's not that practical sometimes in society. And honestly it's not that difficult of a transition to make when you do get to the monastery.

That's just my perspective.

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby Ytrog » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:14 pm


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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby befriend » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:56 am

anagarikas cannot have jobs?
nothing can destroy a man who has lived a pure life

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:09 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:56 am

Hi Retro,

I believe you have it backwards. Anigarikas generally seem to take the 8 precepts of a lay person, a samanera definitely has 10 (which includes the money precept).

:anjali:
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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:04 am

Quite likely!

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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