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Name for a new sutta

Postby pedro1985 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:33 am

I am currently studying the Sutta Pitaka.

The Digha Nikaya, Majjhima Nikaya, and Samyutta Nikaya I was able to buy in book format. They together are more than 4500 pages. Then there is also Anguttara Nikaya and Khuddaka Nikaya.

Some of the teachings are very valuable to me, some of the teachings is less valuable to me. Therefore I am trying to make 1 big sutta containing all the teachings that are of interest to me.

I am trying to make a sutta for my own use that is a collection of many suttas in the form that it reads as if it were to be 1 big sutta. It will start with:

"Thus I have heard, the blessed one was sitting with a group of monks and the monks asked him about subject 1, then the blessed ones answers... Then after this the monks asked the blessed one about subject 2, then the blessed ones answers... etc..."

In this way I want to put all the subjects that are valuable to me found in many suttas combined into 1 big sutta. I think the sutta will be around 300 to 500 pages in total. So it will be an easy book for my personal use that I can consult.

Now my question is: how would you write in Pali a fitting sutta name for this:

I am thinking of something like "The big sutta" or "The sutta containing many teachings" or something in that direction. I hope someone can help me think of a good Pali name.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:41 am

Why would you remove valuble context?
the suttas have many layers of meaning and each is a special precious gift to be read and read again, even the ones which are not liked by oneself for whatever reason.

why not get a book and not down specific passages you like on each page?

it also wouldn't be a sutta not something which legitimately starts with Evam Me Sutam thus have I heard.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby pedro1985 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:03 pm

Its not a way of removing valuable information, I still have the Digha Nikaya, Majjhima Nikaya, and Samyutta Nikaya in printed bookform on my bookshelf.

To me it will be an easy accessable book of about 300 - 500 pages that contains especially that parts of the suttas which I want to read often, so that it is easier to carry around, rather than carry 3 big, heavy books around.

See it as a summary, to be used for personal use.

The reason why I make it start with "Thus I have heard." Is because I like the style of how the suttas are written. I prefer to make a summary in that style, rather than to keep many notes.

I still hope someone can help me with a name...

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:43 pm

it wouldn't be a pitaka and could confuse people if he shared it, Bhikkhu Bhodhi didn't call his 'in the Buddhas words' a pitaka, it would be better to just call it an anthology of excerpts.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:14 pm

I think it might be confusing and take away from the 'purity' of the names of the Suttas. But if I did give it a name, perhaps:

The Dhamma Sutta
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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby daverupa » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:02 pm

mahapedrosutta

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby pedro1985 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:55 pm

What does "maha" in "mahapedrosutta" mean?

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:56 pm

Maha means Great or long


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby vitellius » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:01 pm

Dear pedro1985,

I believe that calling it a "sutta" is not quite a good idea.

Suttas are texts that were passed unaltered through more than two thousand years.

Wouldn't it be somewhat disrespectful to this tradition to call your own compilation a "sutta"?

I would suggest that "compilation" or "anthology" or "collection" are better options.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby chownah » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:10 am

I agree with the sentiment that using the term "sutta" can have bad consequences. If it is just for yourself then no need for a title at all.......I suggest taking a look at your intentions....
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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:53 am

Pedropada.

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Retro. :)
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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Brizzy » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:16 am

Pedroyana?

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Kare » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:21 am

Mettāya,
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Re: Name for a new sutta

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:54 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Name for a new sutta

Postby chownah » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:04 pm

Pedro1985,
Have you considered getting one of those Kindle things......I'm not sure if they are called "e-readers" or "e-books" or whatever.....seems like you could get all of what you are wanting on it and probably alot more......but I'm not sure as I am ignorant of this stuff....
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