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Monk Police in Thailand

Postby gavesako » Tue May 12, 2009 7:58 pm

How fake monks are caught in Thailand and disrobed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbU8Ehj ... r_embedded
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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby cooran » Tue May 12, 2009 8:29 pm

Hello Ven. Gavesako,

Absolutely fascinating! But how easy to become misused ...?

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby pink_trike » Tue May 12, 2009 8:29 pm

Interesting, and a little disturbing.

When they're finished cleaning up the streets of fake monks, then they might want to start rooting out the fake monks within the walls of the monasteries, at all levels. That will keep them busy for a while.
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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby retrofuturist » Wed May 13, 2009 4:59 am

Greetings,

I like your thinking, bhante.

Better to address one's own defilements than to allow aversion towards the corruption of others to flourish.

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby thornbush » Wed May 13, 2009 5:01 am

Wow Bhante,
I wish there was something like that in my country...it was a huge problem here at one time and even now they are still all over the place...at one time limited to wearing Theravada Monastics' robes and then they started donning Chinese Mahayana Buddhist ones too...and yet some Malaysians being the generous ones that they are and despite awareness and campaigns to educate the public on such matters, there will always be the 'compassionate fool'.....
I guess karma will have to be their better teacher if humans can't educate enough such people from being monastic imposters... :shrug:

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby pink_trike » Wed May 13, 2009 5:41 am

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby pink_trike » Wed May 13, 2009 6:08 pm

Lay members of the Catholic Church and many in the general public were well aware of the corruption within the Church for decades before scandals finally started getting media attention. The belief that priests and the church were beyond criticism resulted in an absence of public dialogue which in turn allowed the corruption to continue and grow to massive proportions. As a result, countless children / adult survivors of abuse needlessly suffered. The corruption within Thaliand's institutional Buddhism has also been known for decades, and it too isn't discussed publicly because of the widespread belief that monks and monasteries are beyond criticism. Simply silently withdrawing one's support or reporting corruption to monastic leaders isn't enough to stop it's spread. This code of silence that exists to protect the reputation of the institution was, in both cases, taught by the institutions. The only way corruption stops is when the laity stops being the bearers of the secrets. When we turn a blind eye _we_ directly enable suffering.

If the institution of Buddhism in Thailand is so fragile that truth and daylight will cause it to crumble, then what good is it?
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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby gavesako » Wed May 13, 2009 7:14 pm

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby nomad » Sat May 23, 2009 10:47 pm

That’s an incredible story! Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

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Re: Monk Police in Thailand

Postby Ben » Sun May 24, 2009 1:47 am

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