SN 12.20 Paccaya Sutta: Requisite Conditions

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Re: SN 12.20 Paccaya Sutta: Requisite Conditions

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:07 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Apologies that I cannot recall the source, but I have read the opinion that dukkha-dukkha (suffering of suffering), viparinama-dukkha (suffering due to change) and sankhara-dukkha (suffering due to formations) are not to be regarded different sets/subsets of suffering, but rather, progressively more refined understandings of dukkha.


Perhaps, but the fact remains that it's all dukkha, evidenced by the suffix "dukkha" on each of the three types.

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Re: SN 12.20 Paccaya Sutta: Requisite Conditions

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:19 am

Spiny O'Norman wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Apologies that I cannot recall the source, but I have read the opinion that dukkha-dukkha (suffering of suffering), viparinama-dukkha (suffering due to change) and sankhara-dukkha (suffering due to formations) are not to be regarded different sets/subsets of suffering, but rather, progressively more refined understandings of dukkha.


Perhaps, but the fact remains that it's all dukkha, evidenced by the suffix "dukkha" on each of the three types.

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it may refer to where the pain begins, if physical it is only the reaction one can deal with, if mental one, can remove the problem causing the dukkha.
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