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OpenDhamma Hot Topic Posts being Reviewed

Postby Vepacitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:39 pm

If all responses have to be reviewed and approved (by men) then it's not really an open thread.

More like a gang up on the female posters here who have some guts ... pretty freaking sad.

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Postby daverupa » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:04 pm

There's one female mod who has access to that process, perhaps that can help assuage this sense of imbalance?

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Re: OpenDhamma Hot Topic Posts being Reviewed

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:38 pm

Perhaps David you could demonstrate your commitment to egalitarianism by allowing women to share their hurt at the way that they are frequently treated without that expression being subject to male censorship as on the Hot Topic thread.
I consider the suppression of the Dealing with Anxiety thread in order to funnel all debate into a male only censored thread to be quite quite shocking, and underlines all the points that some of the female members are making.
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Postby Khalil Bodhi » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:44 pm

Sanghamitta,

David generally stays out of the moderating as a rule just to avoid any appearance of impropriety. I have locked the threads at present until the moderators can review the posts being made. The content and tone of many of the posts made by both male and female participants seems to be completely adhammic and contrary to the Dhamma-vinaya in both letter and spirit. I certainly don't doubt the veracity of your grievances but perhaps this forum is not the right platform? Mettaya.
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Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:46 pm

The ( at the moment ) ALL MALE MOD team are behaving like the government of a totalitarian state.
I am appalled.
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Postby Khalil Bodhi » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:52 pm

I'm sorry you feel that way. If you truly feel that you're being treated unfairly why make a big stink of it? I, for one, would leave an internet forum where I was made to feel as unwelcome and oppressed as you claim to feel.
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Postby Yana » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:22 pm

i'm sorry..my name is Yana..i'm new to this forum so i don't know what's going on..i didn't even know you can lock a post..i thought that lock symbol meant it's secure or something..i know it's stupid but bear with me..

I don't know where else to post this but i just wanted to say right now my original post was not meant to stir up or instigate any form of gender bashing...or division..it was to seek help in getting rid of the wrong views that i have personally struggled with.Personally,if it's even relevant anymore,at this point..this struggle was to let go of the residual feeling of fear and anxiety towards men accumulated through years of holding onto these wrong views.This is the main reason i posted my original question/post.

you see..I needed help to "Stop" hating men.Not "Reasons Why I Hate Men".

and i'm really sorry it's turned out the way it has.

PS.Please dont tell me to stop apologizing,this is not possible.I feel like **** right now. and don't tell me i'm giving the male members a free pass.this is not true! :(
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Postby Fede » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:33 pm

Taking the unilateral decision to lock a thread without consulting or advising the OP that it is being considered is authoritarian and bad mannered.
I wish to voice my strongest objection. this is curtailing free speech.
you are moderators, not censors.

the fact that this has caused such heated debate is indicative of several things:
One, women are definitely poorly represented here, and the invitation to increase the number of female members, which was suggested by a male member to a female one, is frankly, patronising and in poor taste.

Two, the matter is obviously of sufficient importance to arouse an awful lot of feeling and comment amongst even buddhists - allegedly followers the most peace-loving and undivided religion currently manifesting on the planet. how quickly this is forgotten.

Three, Buddhism and all it teaches has obviously taught men nothing.
Men still question whether the Buddha was really sexist, and what they should do about addiction to porn.
both of which indicate a very samsaric and insulting attitude to women.
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Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:45 pm

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Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:49 pm

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Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:51 pm

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Re: OpenDhamma Hot Topic Posts being Reviewed

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:00 pm

Well, up until that post by Fede is was only you on the attack of Dhamma Wheel and its moderator team. But now okay, it is you and Fede.

Look at Yana's posts. She was just expressing some personal experience issues regarding men and that is how Fede started too in the other thread. Now you and Fede have turned the direction toward the mod staff.
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Re: OpenDhamma Hot Topic Posts being Reviewed

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:06 pm

This is somewhat ridiculous. I think I've seen every topic that was ever locked in this forum since the begining to see if there was censorship or other bad moderation actions. Until now, none of those topics have been wrongly closed (although sometimes it's a bit preventive of potential verbal fights). The topics that were just closed were closed by the same reason as every other topic was closed: verbal violence. I cannot see any dictatorship here.
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Re: OpenDhamma Hot Topic Posts being Reviewed

Postby SDC » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:42 pm

Have we all forgotten the reality of what we are involved in here in this life? That whatever we think we are - male/female, black/white, gay/straight, smart/stupid, old/young, good/bad, etc - doesn't mean an effing thing? I think we are all showing how serious we are taking our "selves".

I don't think the topic should be locked. If we all want to prove to each other how much we are dependent on the idea of ourselves then so be it. It will be a great learning experience for all on exactly what we are doing wrong.

Who knows? I may be taking my self quite seriously be writing this post. :tongue:

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