and from the Micchatta Sutta:Of those, right view is the forerunner. And how is right view the forerunner? In one of right view, right resolve comes into being. In one of right resolve, right speech comes into being. In one of right speech, right action... In one of right action, right livelihood... In one of right livelihood, right effort... In one of right effort, right mindfulness... In one of right mindfulness, right concentration... In one of right concentration, right knowledge... In one of right knowledge, right release comes into being. Thus the learner is endowed with eight factors, and the arahant with ten.
So we have:"From wrongness comes failure, not success. And how is it, monks, that from wrongness comes failure, not success?
"In a person of wrong view, wrong resolve comes into being. In a person of wrong resolve, wrong speech. In a person of wrong speech, wrong action. In a person of wrong action, wrong livelihood. In a person of wrong livelihood, wrong effort. In a person of wrong effort, wrong mindfulness. In a person of wrong mindfulness, wrong concentration. In a person of wrong concentration, wrong knowledge. In a person of wrong knowledge, wrong release.
"This is how from wrongness comes failure, not success.
"From rightness comes success, not failure. And how is it, monks, that from rightness comes success, not failure?
"In a person of right view, right resolve comes into being. In a person of right resolve, right speech. In a person of right speech, right action. In a person of right action, right livelihood. In a person of right livelihood, right effort. In a person of right effort, right mindfulness. In a person of right mindfulness, right concentration. In a person of right concentration, right knowledge. In a person of right knowledge, right release.
"This is how from rightness comes success, not failure."
samma-ditthi (right understanding)
samma-sankappa (right thought)
samma-vaca (right speech)
samma-kammanta (right action)
samna-ajiva (right livelihood)
samma-vayama (right effort)
samma-sati (right awareness)
samma-samadhi (right concentration)
And the other 2 are:
samma-nana (right knowledge)
samma-vimutti (right release)
I understand the last 2 to be fruits. Is there any sense in which they also can be part of "practice" in the broad sense of the word? Or are they fully absent prior to attaintment to the fruit of arahant?
[edit: to fix typo, changing the word "In" to "Is" in the first question.]