Dhammanando wrote: Well, in fact there is a place for it. The Buddha commended the "divine abiding" of muditā —empathetic joy at the success or happiness of others— as a quality worth developing. And when muditā arises, the wholesome consciousness that it accompanies may well generate those mind-produced derivative materialities known as bodily intimation and verbal intimation, conventionally taking such forms as 'clapping', 'cheering' and suchlike.
However, not every sort of success or happiness is worthy of muditā. For example, a successful bank robber wouldn't be a suitable object for muditā, nor would a happy person whose happiness is delusional. For these persons the appropriate divine abiding is not muditā but compassion.
Yikes! People are noticing the change in me.
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Perhaps your 'celebration' should be done within the context of a meeting or communication between yourself and your teacher or an ordained sangha member in whom you have confidence. Public declarations of one's attainments, as you have done here, will invite scrutiny.flyingOx wrote:
I see, so there is just no place at all for fellow Buddhists to celebrate each other's happiness or deliverance, outwardly? Well, perhaps I WAS correct in my assessments of Buddhism being overbearingly religious. Perhaps I would make a better Hare Krishna.
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
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Well, folks, it has been nice chatting with you all. Just consider me another passer-by, another wanderer wandering through, another unenlightened !
So close, but no cigar...too crazy :cookoo: to be considered one of the circle of stars.
So long, it's been fun...and according to most...very wrong
Time to enjoy my enlightenment elsewhere
But may only loving kindness be yours
and please don't draw too many swords
Love you all.
bye
So close, but no cigar...too crazy :cookoo: to be considered one of the circle of stars.
So long, it's been fun...and according to most...very wrong
Time to enjoy my enlightenment elsewhere
But may only loving kindness be yours
and please don't draw too many swords
Love you all.
bye
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Well, at least it rhymed.
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Well I do not remember any passage or teaching where enlightenment had any pride known about or not.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Hi flyingox,
It seems like an expectation wasn't met here, and you're expressing disappointment about it.
What were your expectations? I noticed that several times you brought up the religiosity you perceive here.
Best,
Ngawang Drolma
It seems like an expectation wasn't met here, and you're expressing disappointment about it.
What were your expectations? I noticed that several times you brought up the religiosity you perceive here.
Best,
Ngawang Drolma