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The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby bodom » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:23 pm

Good to see you posting again Guy! Welcome back!

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


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well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:07 am

Thanks Bodom, glad to be back. :hug:
Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:55 am

Good day, everyone.

About six months ago, or so, I do not recall exactly, my daily meditation practice broke down. I went a few weeks without sitting, nor did I read dhamma. There was just a sudden halt that kind of took me by surprise, although I suppose it shouldn't have. Looking back, I do believe that I had taxed myself to much in trying to be a 'scholar' buddhist practitioner, when in fact I am a poor fit for that. Trying to learn pali, read the VM and the vimuttimagga, the nikayas, post here frequently, meditate, all the while maintaining two children and personal studies not connected with dhamma, proved to much. Something had to give.

Anyway, such a thing happens to many of us sooner or later, I suppose, so no big deal. But what has been a big deal is that I haven't been able to maintain a consistent meditation practice since. Some periods I can easily bring myself down to sit, other periods it's hard to convince myself. I've just grown to complacent with my lot in life, and find myself anticipating the day when the kids have grown and I can dispense with all but those things that are absolutely necessary for living. It is then, I imagine, that I'll get to it again.

We all know well the warning about death's sudden visit, however, and the length of my life is a mystery even to me.

So in light of a few recent realizations, the reminder death's suddenness being only one, I resolve here to meditate for one hour each evening for the next 30 days. Each day I will post and declare my success. I fancy that 30 hours meditation, with you good people as my witness, should be a good way to kick this problem of mine to the dirt.

After that I figure a minimum of 365 hours meditation per year shouldn't be to taxing.

What do you good people think?
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:56 am

Success for the 20th of March!

Even before sitting to write the post immediately above, I had already succeeded in my hour's meditation. I sat, and sat. The first 30 minutes were a cake walk. The last 30... not so much. Haha.

Onward!

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:00 am

Hi thereductor,
Thanks for the update and sorry to hear that your practice has been a bit rocky of late.
It can be very hard work at times - and I know that myself from personal experience.
What I found helpful is to meditate in the very early morning before anyone else gets out of bed and again later in the evening when family members have retired for the night. And if it is at all a possibility - I strongly recommend a yearly residential meditation retreat. This will be really very helpful to get and remain established.
with Metta,

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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:05 am

Thanks for the encouragement, Ben.

I shouldn't have much trouble with the evenings. That's my natural time. Mornings... well, one thing at a time. Hehe. I would love to make that work, though.

And I am finally going to get a retreat in. I have decided, dang it! I have not done one so far, because I always think of it as me burdening my family members. But without a yearly retreat I can see that my practice will be lacking a very important component.

:heart:

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:26 am

Hi TheReductor and All,

It's good to hear about your experience because it means I'm not alone when it comes to dropping the practice! I also have been trying to cut back to what I really "need" in life.

Probably one of the biggest areas I need to cut back (or be more selective about) are my friends, I have been trying to juggle too many friendships and there's just no "me"(ditation) time. The problem is not just having too many friends, but the wrong type of friends. Being a 25 year old male I feel that society expects me to be a certain way and that way is just not good for me. Many of my closest friends are much older than me as often I don't feel that I can relate to many of the people my age.

Good, virtuous, wise friends are the whole of the spiritual life, not half! The Buddha was right...again!

By the way: I meditated for an hour yesterday and I will go and meditate for an hour today right now!

Metta,

Guy
Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:11 am

Hey Guy, all.

I know that society wants people to conform its expectations. I feel it at times, as my life certainly doesn't conform to the norms of where I live. Or perhaps it is I that expect society to expect it! Or perhaps again the expectation is indeed real, in which case those that are disappointed/surprised/dismayed will have to remain that way.

Did I mention that I'm glad to see you posting again? I've had occasion to wonder just where it was that you had gone. So welcome back!

Tonight I completed the hour. Actually an hour and 11 minutes, as I restarted. All in all it was an adventure. First I sat in my kids' room so that they'd quiet down and sleep (which worked well last night). My daughter complained after 11 minutes or so (I checked on my timer) that her teeth had something caught in them. After flossing her, I began again. Then, after she had drifted off and my mind seemed to be collecting inwardly, I instead became drowsy. So I struggled a moment or two before deciding to make the experience of being drowsy the focal point of the meditation. That worked for a time, and paradoxically eased my drowsiness. Then it ceased to keep it at bay (because the room is very warm, and dark?).

So I spent the last half hour in walking/standing meditation.

:twothumbsup:

Thank you everyone for reading.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:14 am

Hi TheReductor,

I can only imagine what it must be like being a father AND a meditator! Great effort!

It's an interesting experience isn't it, when you make the dullness the object of the meditation (as long as it's not too strong) it often fades away and is replaced by brightness. When the dullness is really strong, in my experience, then, the time is better spent sleeping than trying to meditate. I have a lot of experience with sloth and torpor as it seems to be one of my more dominant defilements.

Back to basics for me as I know my mindfulness is much weaker than it has been in the past. I have been practicing just a basic body scan meditation the last couple of days and I will be practicing a basic breath meditation (with counting) this afternoon.

Metta,

Guy
Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:47 am


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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:43 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:27 am

Tally up this evening also.

Counting works well for concentration, in that my attention is anchored well to the breathing. However, it might work a little to well because of the drowsiness I feel so regularly ('when is the wrong time for concentration? when one feels drowsy' - a crude paraphrase of the Buddha). So, I found myself counting only exhalations, and feeling the inhalations. Feeling inhalations while not engaging my mind with the counting at those moments allowed me a measure of analysis, which helped dispel the drowsiness. Yet, counting kept my mind from wandering away with it's new energy.

So, that's how it seems tonight. What will tomorrow bring?

Good will to all.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Yana » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:03 pm

I'm going to meditate 2/day.(Anapanasati)

I will start with 5min then add 1 min every sitting till i reach an hour.

5min+1,2,3..55min.

yes it's very slow..but i like slow and gradual work!grr.
Hopefull after i will have adapted..and i won't have much trouble sitting two hours a day.An hour 2/day.which is my ultimate goal for my lifestyle.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby dhamma_newb » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:31 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
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I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:12 am

Once more I have completed the hour. This was a difficult night for me.

Peace to all.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Reductor » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:10 am

I was getting comfy in bed for sleep when I remembered that I hadn't posted here.

So yes, I did my hour. It is becoming easier and easier to do each day, in terms of habit and duration. Last night was difficult in that I was burdened by certain defilements, while tonight was very good. It was smooth sailing, and I ended with a good bout of brahmavihara meditation.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:55 pm

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:58 pm

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Meditation Challenge

Postby Guy » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:00 pm

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm


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