The Progression of Insight Knowledge

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The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby dhamma_newb » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:15 am

A good Dhamma talk given by Steve Armstrong and Hla Myint on the the Progress of Insight.

http://dharmaseed.org/retreats/1300/

I am looking forward to purchasing their transalation of Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw's "Manual of Insight" when it gets published.

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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:01 am

Thanks Don

Are you familiar with this?
The Progress of Insight (Visuddhiñana-katha) by The Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw
translated from the Pali with Notes by Nyanaponika Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... gress.html
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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:46 am

Ben wrote:Thanks Don

Are you familiar with this?
The Progress of Insight (Visuddhiñana-katha) by The Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw
translated from the Pali with Notes by Nyanaponika Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... gress.html
kind regrds,

Ben


Thanks for the link Ben. :smile:
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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby Viscid » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:52 am

Some teachers would discourage students from reading about the Nanas on their own... It can create inhibiting expectations and self-diagnoses...
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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 am

This is on the same subject

The seven purifications and insight knowledges by Ven Matara Nanarama

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/bm7insight.pdf

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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 am

Viscid wrote:It can create inhibiting expectations and self-diagnoses...


Hi Viscid, aren't these just more objects to be mindful of?

rowyourboat wrote:This is on the same subject

The seven purifications and insight knowledges by Ven Matara Nanarama

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/bm7insight.pdf

With metta

Matheesha


Thanks for the link Matheesha. :smile:
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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby Viscid » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:10 pm

dhamma_newb wrote:
Viscid wrote:It can create inhibiting expectations and self-diagnoses...


Hi Viscid, aren't these just more objects to be mindful of?


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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby daverupa » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:17 pm

Viscid wrote:Some teachers would discourage students from reading about the Nanas on their own... It can create inhibiting expectations and self-diagnoses...


I fail to see how such a closed-hand habit would be in keeping with the open-hand Dhamma. Maybe if the Nanas are somehow an extra spice on the Dhamma, it makes sense to watch out who learns about them and when?

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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:16 pm

Well it's kind of hard to avoid information on the Progress of Insight today, it's on many forums and websites. I'm pretty sure I came across it when I first learned Vipassana and did a search on Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw. There's a link to the Progress of Insight on his Wikipedia page.

If this information is supposed to be for teachers only then they've done a poor job of keeping it from beginning students.
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Re: The Progression of Insight Knowledge

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:17 pm

daverupa wrote:
Viscid wrote:Some teachers would discourage students from reading about the Nanas on their own... It can create inhibiting expectations and self-diagnoses...


I fail to see how such a closed-hand habit would be in keeping with the open-hand Dhamma. Maybe if the Nanas are somehow an extra spice on the Dhamma, it makes sense to watch out who learns about them and when?

:shrug:


I agree.
The watched mind brings happiness.
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