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Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Dan74 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:43 pm

It could've been, although as a recluse, he could've easily done it so that no one would have found out.

All very speculative.

We are here because great teachers chose to share their wisdom rather than focus all their energies on attaining cessation. There is a lot to be said for not rushing to save the world and "blessing" it with our ignorance but seeing our actions only in terms of what they are not, is going too far, in my view.
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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby paarsurrey » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:09 pm

I don't think Buddha believed in physical multiple rebirths of man; it is primarily a Hindu concept got mixed up with Buddhism.

Buddha meant, in my opinion, spiritual forms one resembles while treading on the middle path till one attains salvation; it is all in one span of life not in multiple rebirths physically.
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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Mothra » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:33 am

I don't think one can separate belief in rebirth from Theravada Buddhism. If one rejects the idea of rebirth then so too does the concept of nirvana no longer make sense. Death by itself is not cessation of the aggregates. Only if enlightenment is realized during the lifetime is death going to be the final one, and only then do the aggregates cease.

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:23 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:36 am

Greetings Lazy,

Once again, I refer you to the topic I referred you to on page 1 of the topic.

Hopefully it challenges your perspective on what "existence" is. :) (clue: it's not "living")

Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Ben » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:33 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Buckwheat » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41 pm

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby paarsurrey » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:00 pm

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Ben » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:47 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby santa100 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:27 am

Paarsurrey wrote:
"I think Buddha believed in heaven and hell where one dwells after death. Didn't he?"

While the Buddha certainly did teach about heaven and hell, there're more to His teaching: that there are different kinds of heavens and if one was reborn there, none of those places would be his/her "permanent" dwelling. The best thing that one should do is to practice until one nice day, one'd no longer have a "self" that needs to seek residency anywhere else. This is Nibbana, the unconditioned, unbinding, utmost bliss, etc...

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Yana » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:47 am

Life is preparing for Death

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Re: Buddhism, rebirth and suicide

Postby Alex123 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:51 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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