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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 05, 2012 10:39 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Buckwheat » Sat May 05, 2012 10:52 pm

I tried to post one day, and the thread was locked. Sorry, locked. Maybe that is different than "closed"? That does not matter, it is not my point. Only a statement that through it being temporarily locked I thought it was closed. Doesn't matter, close or not is totally beside the point.

The defense for this thread is to allow open discussion, yet open discussion is not allowed. Just because you say it is allowed does not mean it is allowed, as anybody who dissented had their posts removed. Even a pretty benign post by Kim was removed, while a response to it was allowed to remain. This falls under what I think of as "censorship", but apparently others don't care.

I am now going to ignore any thread with the word atheist in it. Sorry for any confusion or frustration I had a part in.
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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 05, 2012 11:25 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby polarbear101 » Sun May 06, 2012 12:27 am

In hindsight I shouldn't have asked what happened to my quotes. :toilet:

before typing anything on this thread watch this and relax...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCU5uplB4A
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"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun May 06, 2012 12:58 am

I don't understand what all the comotion is. There is a topic created by Ñana criticizing atheism. Atheism can be criticized there. And there's a topic for atheist quotes (which is far from "stupid Nevadans" bashing). What is the option? Closing the topic and thus censuring atheist quotes? That doesn't make sense.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Buckwheat » Sun May 06, 2012 1:11 am

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 3:09 am

Dear all,

No doubt the existence of the Atheist Quotes thread is provoking a lot of strong feelings. I ask those who object to the presence of the thread to 'step back' and please re-read David's posts. If the content of the post is not for you then I kindly request that you don't read or participate in it. As I said in a reply to Kim, if there are quotes you wish to respond to - feel free to create another thread that critiques the quotes you take issue with.

Have no doubt that we are listening to your concerns - even if from time to time our decisions may be contrary to your wishes. We (the mod/admin team) will continue to discuss the presence of the Atheist Quotes thread amongst ourselves.
All the best,

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Buckwheat » Sun May 06, 2012 5:18 am

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby danieLion » Sun May 06, 2012 5:21 am

Why would a Buddhist care one way or another about theology?

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Buckwheat » Sun May 06, 2012 5:21 am

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 5:52 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Buckwheat » Sun May 06, 2012 6:03 am

That works.

Thanks,
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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Dan74 » Sun May 06, 2012 12:36 pm

_/|\_

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Ben » Sun May 06, 2012 1:02 pm

Thank you for your input, Dan.
kind regards,

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Hot Topics: Atheist Quotes

Postby Dan74 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:11 pm

No worries, Ben. I really don't want to give you guys more of a headache than you have already and frankly I am not fussed on the subject at all.

Plus I respect the Four Horsemen of the Anti-Apocalypse and what they have to say may be of relevance both to theists and ourselves. I guess it's when it slides into "badmouthing" that it ceases to be useful.

Where and when this line is crossed I am more than happy to leave to your capable hands to determine. :thumbsup:
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