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How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Mon May 07, 2012 10:17 pm

Dear Friends,

I would really like to know how you would say "I am one with everything" in Pali.
Please help and thank you in advance.

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon May 07, 2012 10:48 pm

Greetings,

I'd recommend "sabbe dhamma anatta"...

sabbe = all
dhamma = (experienced) phenomena
anatta = not-self, not-I

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby rowboat » Mon May 07, 2012 11:05 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

I'd recommend "sabbe dhamma anatta"...

sabbe = all
dhamma = (experienced) phenomena
anatta = not-self, not-I

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Wed May 09, 2012 2:50 pm

Thank you Friends,
as much as I like "sabbe dhamma anatta", and I plan on using that as a mantra, I would still very much like to know Pali for
"I am one with everything"

if anybody knows please tell me.

Thank you very much

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby BKh » Wed May 09, 2012 3:04 pm

Dear Kashi,

"I am one with everything" isn't really a Theravada Buddhist concept, so will be a little difficult to render it into meaningful Pali.
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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Wed May 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Yes I can see and understand how it would be difficult as the phrase is not really something the Buddha taught, I guess I was just looking at it from my own perspective as to say "everything" also meaning "nothing". The bigger picture of "everything" if that makes any sense lol...
thought it would sound cool in the pali language. I hope someone might know.

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby Cafael Dust » Wed May 09, 2012 9:07 pm

KASHI, I googled your signature and found this:

http://www.augustpoetry.org/poets/Issa.htm

Thankyou for sharing it. :namaste:

Edit: sorry, off topic
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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed May 09, 2012 9:30 pm

is actually one of the wrong views mentioned in one of the suttas but can not remember which one!
find the sutta you have your passage.
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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Wed May 09, 2012 10:00 pm

Cafael Dust wrote:KASHI, I googled your signature and found this:

http://www.augustpoetry.org/poets/Issa.htm

Thankyou for sharing it. :namaste:

Edit: sorry, off topic


Thank you for that wonderful little site you shared my friend!! yes, his haikus have been an inspiration to me and some are very deep and profound. I hope you enjoyed some of his work .

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Wed May 09, 2012 10:05 pm

Cittasanto wrote:is actually one of the wrong views mentioned in one of the suttas but can not remember which one!
find the sutta you have your passage.


Thank you Cittasanto,
I do recall this as being wrong view and I am trying to remember what the sutta was as I know I read it not long ago...
Perhaps I should stick to "sabbe dhamma anatta"...
(I like having my own little mantras that are not the "norm")

Take care my friend.

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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby BKh » Wed May 09, 2012 10:29 pm

I don't recall it being phrased exactly like that, but there is this from MN 1, Ven Nanamoli trans:

23. “He perceives unity as unity. Having perceived unity as unity, he conceives [himself as] unity, he conceives [himself] in unity, he conceives [himself apart] from unity, he conceives unity to be ‘mine,’ he delights in unity. Why is that? Because he has not fully understood it, I say.
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25. “He perceives all as all. Having perceived all as all, he conceives [himself as] all, [4] he conceives [himself] in all, he conceives [himself apart] from all, he conceives all to be ‘mine,’ he delights in all. Why is that? Because he has not fully understood it, I say.


Is that what you were thinking of?
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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby KASHI » Wed May 09, 2012 10:48 pm

BKh wrote:I don't recall it being phrased exactly like that, but there is this from MN 1, Ven Nanamoli trans:

23. “He perceives unity as unity. Having perceived unity as unity, he conceives [himself as] unity, he conceives [himself] in unity, he conceives [himself apart] from unity, he conceives unity to be ‘mine,’ he delights in unity. Why is that? Because he has not fully understood it, I say.
...
25. “He perceives all as all. Having perceived all as all, he conceives [himself as] all, [4] he conceives [himself] in all, he conceives [himself apart] from all, he conceives all to be ‘mine,’ he delights in all. Why is that? Because he has not fully understood it, I say.


Is that what you were thinking of?


I think that is it.
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Re: How would you say "I am one with everything" in Pali?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu May 10, 2012 12:01 am

Greetings Kashi,

Well, if that's the one you were thinking of, maybe you might like to pause and think again... since if you read the sutta end-to-end, you'll see it's actually speaking out against such perceptions. Compare what the worldling does, what the trainee should do, and what the arahant does.

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