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Mind-made body - a question

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Postby Dhammakid » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:38 pm

This is an interesting topic, one I would like more information on.

What is the purpose of the "mind-made body"? Why would one want to do this type of practice? What are the benefits?

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Postby Dhammakid » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:20 pm

Hello Stuka,
Seems like you're right on the money with this analysis. I'm interested to see what everyone else has to say.

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The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Mind-made body - a question

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:26 pm

Greetings Individual,

However, it says nothing about "mind precedes all physical states".

Nor do I recall anything in the suttas that says anything to this effect either.

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Postby BubbaBuddhist » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:56 pm

Hi Retro,

Let's loosely define "mind" for the moment as "citta" and see if we can say if "citta defines at least SOME physical states," at least in terms of how the Abhidhamma describes how the dying-citta of individual "A" gives rise to the patisandhi-citta of Individual "B." Which process presumably conditions the physical conditions of Individual "B's" birth. At lease let's say this if it doesn't drift :offtopic: :rofl:

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Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:57 pm

I was looking through some pages at some information on the Satipatthana Sutta and noticed this on the mind made body
hope it provides adequate food for thought
http://halfsmile.org/buddhadust/www.bud ... ndMadeBody


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby halwilson » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:59 am

"We had the experience, but missed the meaning" T. S. Eliot

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Re: Mind-made body - a question

Postby srivijaya » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:33 pm

Thanks Hal,
That reminds me of some accounts I heard from a Buddhist friend who had spent time in the forests of Thailand. I guess if monks are on the right path, some at least may manifest siddhis of one kind or another. To boast or even discuss this is discouraged for the best of reasons, as they are not the aim of the path but I would be very surprised if they never happened.
If the account is correct, it may have been a case of mind-made body, as that is the one which the suttas claim can walk through mountains etc.

It seems, though, that there is no systematic teaching of this left within the mainstream tradition, so no way of verifying it one way or another.

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Someone apparently asked him later and LP Waen replied that he had projected just an image of himself towards the direction of a certain tree, but it ended up in the sky!
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