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which sutta?

Postby mlswe » Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 pm

anyone know the sutta which has similies for the noble eightfold path with sati as gatekeeper and samadhi as food supply or something like that?

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Cittasanto » Mon May 14, 2012 8:50 pm

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Re: which sutta?

Postby Sam Vara » Mon May 14, 2012 8:52 pm

Sounds a bit like the Nagara Sutta (The Fortress) but it gives seven qualities rather than the N8FP

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Sam Vara » Mon May 14, 2012 8:58 pm

Or it might be this one

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

but still no N8FP in there...

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Re: which sutta?

Postby befriend » Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 pm

how very happily we live, we who have nothing, we will feed on rapture like the radiant gods." not sure where thats from but prior to that awesome ending is how very happily we live amongst miserable people, among miserable people free from misery we dwell etc....
nothing can destroy a man who has lived a pure life

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Re: which sutta?

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue May 15, 2012 7:22 am

If the ones mentioned above are not the ones you are looking for, try looking through the Samyutta Nikaya chapter 45 on the path, first chapter in book 5 of the PTS editions http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .html#sn45 or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision
or possibly Angutara nikaya book of 8's http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... x.html#an8 or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision
With the second links for each just click on the flag of the language and it sends you to the translation sometimes this is to a text of the first link.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: which sutta?

Postby mlswe » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:48 pm

on reflecting, that it was similes of the the N8FP was just an assumption,

didn´t know exactly what i was looking for

But i think Nagara Sutta was it

thanks for your help and for keeping the good wheel turning :)

all the best / ML


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