which sutta?

[mlswe]

anyone know the sutta which has similies for the noble eightfold path with sati as gatekeeper and samadhi as food supply or something like that?

Kind regards

[Cittasanto]

anyone know the sutta which has similies for the noble eightfold path with sati as gatekeeper and samadhi as food supply or something like that?

Kind regards

Hi,
Try this sutta

AN 7.63 Nagara Sutta: The Fortress

[Sam Vara]

Sounds a bit like the Nagara Sutta (The Fortress) but it gives seven qualities rather than the N8FP

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Sam Vara]

Or it might be this one

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but still no N8FP in there...

[befriend]

how very happily we live, we who have nothing, we will feed on rapture like the radiant gods." not sure where thats from but prior to that awesome ending is how very happily we live amongst miserable people, among miserable people free from misery we dwell etc....

[mikenz66]

See also:

SN 35.204 Kimsuka Sutta: The Riddle Tree
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9586" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Suppose, monk, that there were a royal frontier fortress with strong walls & ramparts and six gates. In it would be a wise, experienced, intelligent gatekeeper to keep out those he didn't know and to let in those he did. A swift pair of messengers, coming from the east, would say to the gatekeeper, 'Where, my good man, is the commander of this fortress?' He would say, 'There he is, sirs, sitting in the central square.' The swift pair of messengers, delivering their accurate report to the commander of the fortress, would then go back by the route by which they had come. Then a swift pair of messengers, coming from the west... the north... the south, would say to the gatekeeper, 'Where, my good man, is the commander of this fortress?' He would say, 'There he is, sirs, sitting in the central square.' The swift pair of messengers, delivering their accurate report to the commander of the fortress, would then go back by the route by which they had come.

"I have given you this simile, monk, to convey a message. The message is this: The fortress stands for this body — composed of four elements, born of mother & father, nourished with rice & barley gruel, subject to constant rubbing & abrasion, to breaking & falling apart. The six gates stand for the six internal sense media. The gatekeeper stands for mindfulness. The swift pair of messengers stands for tranquillity (samatha) and insight (vipassana). The commander of the fortress stands for consciousness. The central square stands for the four great elements: the earth-property, the liquid-property, the fire-property, & the wind-property. The accurate report stands for Unbinding (nibbana). The route by which they had come stands for the noble eightfold path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration."

Mike

[Cittasanto]

If the ones mentioned above are not the ones you are looking for, try looking through the Samyutta Nikaya chapter 45 on the path, first chapter in book 5 of the PTS editions http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .html#sn45" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or possibly Angutara nikaya book of 8's http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... x.html#an8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With the second links for each just click on the flag of the language and it sends you to the translation sometimes this is to a text of the first link.

[mlswe]

on reflecting, that it was similes of the the N8FP was just an assumption,

didn´t know exactly what i was looking for

But i think Nagara Sutta was it

thanks for your help and for keeping the good wheel turning

all the best / ML