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New Sutta anthology

Postby Dhammanando » Sun May 31, 2009 1:59 pm

Greetings,

Just a note to announce the publication of a fine new anthology of Pali Suttas, collected and translated by the Pali Text Society president, Rupert Gethin.

Sayings of the Buddha: new translations from the Pali Nikāyas

http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=18311

http://www.amazon.com/Sayings-Buddha-Translations-Nikayas-Classics/dp/019283925X



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    Contents....


    Dīgha Nikāya

    The Fruits of the Ascetic Life – Sāmaññaphala-sutta (D. i 47–86)

    The Buddha’s Final Nibbāna – Mahāparinibbāna-sutta (D. ii 72–168)

    King Mahāsudassana – Mahāsudassana-sutta (D. ii 169–199)

    The Origin of Things – Aggañña-sutta (D. iii 80–98)

    Advice to Sigāla – Sigālovāda-sutta (D. iii 180–193)


    Majjhima Nikāya

    Establishing Mindfulness – Satipaṭṭhāna-sutta (M. i 55–63)

    The Stilling of Thoughts – Vitakkasaṇṭhāna-sutta (M. i 118–122)

    The Simile of the Snake – Alagaddūpama-sutta (M. i 130 – 142)

    The Short Dialogue with Māluṅkya – Cūḷa-māluṅkya-sutta (M. i 426–432)

    The Dialogue with Prince Bodhi – Bodhirājakumāra-sutta (M. ii 91–97)

    The Analysis of acts – Mahā-kammavibhaṅga-sutta (M. iii 207–215)


    Samyutta Nikāya

    (From the Chapter with Verses – Sagātha-vagga)

    Rohitassa (S. i 61–62)

    (From the Chapter on Causes – Nidāna-vagga)

    Analysis (S. ii 2–4)

    Specific Basis (S. ii 29–32)

    (From the Chapter on the Aggregates – Khandha-vagga)

    Nakulapitar (S. iii 1–5)

    Foam (S. iii 140–143)

    (From the Chapter on the Six Sense Spheres – Saḷāyatana-vagga)

    Burning (S. iv 19–20)

    Illness (S. iv 46–47)

    (From the Great Chapter – Mahā-vagga)

    [Grouped sayings on the path]
    Ignorance (S. v 1–2)

    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 38–41, etc.)

    [Grouped sayings on the seven constituents of awakening]
    Fire (S. v 112–115)

    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 134, 137)

    [Grouped sayings on the four ways of establishing mindfulness]
    The Monkey (S. v 148–150)

    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 189)

    [Grouped sayings on the five faculties]
    Sāketa (S. v 219–220)

    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 239, 241)

    [Grouped sayings on the four ways of right application]
    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 244–245)

    [Grouped sayings on the five powers]
    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 249, 251)

    [Grouped sayings on the four bases of accomplishment]
    moggallāna (S. v 269–271)

    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 290–1)

    [Grouped sayings on the four absorptions]
    The Ganges Repetition (S. v 307–308)

    [Grouped sayings on the truths]
    Turning the Wheel of Truth (S. v 420–424)


    Aṅguttara Nikāya

    From the Section of Ones
    A Finger-snap (A. i 11)

    From the Section of Twos
    Mother and Father (A. i 61–62)

    From the Section of Threes
    Kesaputta (A. i 188–193)

    From the Section of Fours
    Jānussoni (A. ii 173–176)

    From the Section of Fives
    Excited by the Senses (A. iii 5–6)

    From the Section of Sixes
    Mahācunda (A. iii 355–356)

    From the Section of Sevens
    Araka (A. iv 136–139)

    From the Section of Eights
    Worldly Qualities (A. iv 157–160)

    From the Section of Nines
    Sutavat (A. iv 369–371)

    From the Section of Tens
    A Lion’s Roar (A. v 32–36)

    From the Section of Elevens
    Friendliness (A. v 342)

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Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu
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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby piotr » Sun May 31, 2009 3:39 pm

Hi,

Here is a limited preview of that book: http://books.google.com/books?id=Xt1KpW ... =0#PPP1,M1
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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby sherubtse » Sun May 31, 2009 5:41 pm

Dhammanando wrote:Greetings,

Just a note to announce the publication of a fine new anthology of Pali Suttas, collected and translated by the Pali Text Society president, Rupert Gethin.

Sayings of the Buddha: new translations from the Pali Nikāyas

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu



I read this several weeks ago, and thought that the translations were very good. There were however one or two items that caught my eye as being somewhat unconventional.

Also, I wonder why he chose some of the suttas that he did, viz. there are several that seem to repeat much of the same material. This seems a bit odd, as a short collection would seem to call for a wider range of discourses.

But then again, who am I to question the President of the PTS?? :cookoo:

With metta,
Sherubtse

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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby Dhammanando » Sun May 31, 2009 6:07 pm

Hi Sherubtse,

sherubtse wrote:I read this several weeks ago, and thought that the translations were very good. There were however one or two items that caught my eye as being somewhat unconventional.


Do you recall what they were?

Also, I wonder why he chose some of the suttas that he did, viz. there are several that seem to repeat much of the same material.


From Gethin’s translation of the Sigala Sutta:

    ‘A son of a good family should look after the direction above as ascetics and brahmans in five respects: with friendliness in acts of body, with friendliness in acts of speech, with friendliness in acts of thought, by keeping his doors open to them, by providing them with their material needs. When a son of a good family looks after the direction above as ascetics and brahmans in these five respects, then they show him sympathy in six respects: they keep him from what is bad; they encourage him in what is good; they show their sympathy with kind thoughts; they tell him what he hasn’t heard before; they clarify what he has heard before; they explain the path to heaven. When a son of a good family looks after the direction above as ascetics and brahmans in these five respects, then they show him sympathy in these six respects, and in this way the direction above is covered by him and kept safe from danger.’


So, when you read it for the first time you will be hearing what you haven’t heard before, and when you read it for the second time your understanding will be clarified.

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu
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    “Who lives without reverence lives miserably.”
    Uruvela Sutta, A.ii.20

    It were endless to dispute upon everything that is disputable.
    — William Penn Some Fruits of Solitude,

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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby Ben » Sun May 31, 2009 8:53 pm

Thank you Ajahn, thank you Piotr.
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Postby retrofuturist » Sun May 31, 2009 10:56 pm

Greetings,

I guess the obvious question is, how does this compare to Bhikkhu Bodhi's "In The Buddha's Words" as an introductory anthology to the Sutta Pitaka?

:?:

Whilst it sounds good, personally I'm planning on just getting the full nikayas in due course rather than deal with anthologies, but it would be useful to know in terms of recommendations to others (or presents!)

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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby sherubtse » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:00 am

Dhammanando wrote:
sherubtse wrote:I read this several weeks ago, and thought that the translations were very good. There were however one or two items that caught my eye as being somewhat unconventional.


Do you recall what they were?

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu


Not really.

The only one that sticks in my mind is his translation of Pacceka-Buddha. If I remember correctly (and I may not), he translate it along the lines of a "one-off" Buddha, which I found odd. His explanation of this type of Buddha was also a bit odd, at least for me.

If you could clarify his translation of this term for me, Bhante, I would be grateful.

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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby sherubtse » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:04 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

I guess the obvious question is, how does this compare to Bhikkhu Bodhi's "In The Buddha's Words" as an introductory anthology to the Sutta Pitaka?

:?:

Whilst it sounds good, personally I'm planning on just getting the full nikayas in due course rather than deal with anthologies.

Metta,
Retro. :)


Well, I have only read Gethin's anthology once, and BB's one numerous times. But, the latter is a much fuller and more complete collection. It also has a structure and form within which BB places the suttas that he chooses. I would certainly favour the latter over the former, but the former is a good collection too (and well worth reading).

Yes, I also prefer the "real thing" of the full Nikayas. I have come to recognise the value of the suttas over almost all secondary works on them (with some exceptions, of course).

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Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:19 am

Thanks Sherubtse.

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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby Individual » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:27 pm

I try to avoid paying for suttas, if possible.
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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:38 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

I

Whilst it sounds good, personally I'm planning on just getting the full nikayas in due course rather than deal with anthologies, but it would be useful to know in terms of recommendations to others (or presents!)

ditto

i have 3 (all so far i think)of the B. Bodhi nikayas so i dont see much reason to buy these little things. though i'll get a book about one sutta if i dig the author or if it's something i'm really wanting to understand deeper
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Re: New Sutta anthology

Postby gavesako » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:11 am

Individual wrote:I try to avoid paying for suttas, if possible.


That is why someone made this PDF available on Buddhist Torrents blog...
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