Hi RobertK, thanks for getting back about this. Here's the thing though, this quote could apply to either your view or mine. It just says that having wrong thinking leads to a bad outcome. But who is wrong here?robertk wrote:Negative experiences' like aversion and fear can arise anytime, to anyone Buddhist or not, but thinking they are signs of insight is delusion.Ron Crouch wrote:Ron Crouch wrote: The key thing here is to understand that if you are having these negative experiences, as Mahasi points out, it is part and parcel of the path. Don't blame yourself or think you've really messed up. This is insight.
Mike
The path is actually the gradual development of wisdom, which is always and automatically also the development of detachment (especailly from attachment to wrongview).
If these wrong ideas persist one might even have some 'experience' they believe is the attainment of nibbana.
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Anguttara Nikaya Book of the tens XI (iii) 103 Wrongness
From wrong view proceeds wrong thinking; [.....]; from that wrong effort. From wrong effort proceeds wrong mindfulness; from that wrong concentration. From wrong concentration proceeds wrong knowledge. From wrong knowledge proceeds wrong release......
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Remember that you're claiming, and a few others as well, that if one has an insight properly then it never comes with suffering. If it does then the person is doing something wrong.
Could you provide a supporting citation for that view? If not, then let's just call it a personal opinion, rather than claim it is in the commentaries.