Meditation is like... (put your similie here)

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Meditation is like... (put your similie here)

Postby James the Giant » Tue May 22, 2012 12:29 am

Meditation is like... (put your similie here)

Some descriptions of what meditation is like really stick in my mind, and I have come up with some myself too, during retreats.
Here are some descriptions from me, what about you?

Meditation is like... trying of find the calm, still eye of the hurricane.

Or once you've found it:
Meditation is like... remaining still and calm at the centre of a vast hurricane. In the eye of the storm.
(access concentration, or momentary concentration.)

This one isn't mine, but I liked it so much:
Meditation is like a chicken sitting on an egg. Doing nothing. Just sitting, keeping that egg warm. I think that might be from Ajahn Amaro, who was also keen on the phrase Dilligent Effortlessness.

Meditation is like... being immersed in a crucible of liquid fire. Because sometimes when I was very new at this meditation stuff, that's what meditation felt like, all the thoughts and emotions and craziness and urges swirling around in my head like a burning mass of agitation. Meditation was the crucible, and the fire was the burning of my mind itself.

SO, what is meditation like for you?
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.
SN 9.11

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Postby Kamran » Tue May 22, 2012 12:46 am

Meditation is like....lying on the beach listening to the waves while feeling the hot sand under you, the sun on your skin, a cool breeze, and without a thought in your head completely imbibed with serenity :)
When this concentration is thus developed, thus well developed by you, then wherever you go, you will go in comfort. Wherever you stand, you will stand in comfort. Wherever you sit, you will sit in comfort. Wherever you lie down, you will lie down in comfort.

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Postby befriend » Tue May 22, 2012 12:47 am

hahaha having a circle rainbow and using it as a hoola hoop. see how long i can hold it up, or stay with the breath. getting in the groove with it after some time, eventually i will get really good at staying with the breath or hoola hooping. :)

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Postby Goofaholix » Tue May 22, 2012 12:48 am

Meditation is like real life... only slower.
"Proper effort is not the effort to make something particular happen. It is the effort to be aware and awake each moment." - Ajahn Chah
"When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness. When we stop clinging, we can begin to be happy." - Ajahn Chah
"Know and watch your heart. It’s pure but emotions come to colour it." — Ajahn Chah

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Postby Goofaholix » Tue May 22, 2012 12:53 am

Meditation is like real life... only you're there watching it happen, rather than somewhere else.
"Proper effort is not the effort to make something particular happen. It is the effort to be aware and awake each moment." - Ajahn Chah
"When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness. When we stop clinging, we can begin to be happy." - Ajahn Chah
"Know and watch your heart. It’s pure but emotions come to colour it." — Ajahn Chah

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Postby rowboat » Tue May 22, 2012 12:54 am

Heard some time ago in a recorded talk given by Joseph Goldstein. If I remember correctly, I think it's from a sutta. Paraphrasing: Initially one's mindfulness is precarious, like a sphere resting atop an archway, but once well-established, mindfulness becomes secure; like a sphere resting with stability in the well of an inverted arch.
Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Postby bodom » Tue May 22, 2012 12:57 am

Meditation is like....sitting on an ant hill.

:tongue:

:anjali:
The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Postby Goofaholix » Tue May 22, 2012 12:58 am

bodom wrote:Meditation is like....sitting on an ant hill.


A Texas zafu.
"Proper effort is not the effort to make something particular happen. It is the effort to be aware and awake each moment." - Ajahn Chah
"When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness. When we stop clinging, we can begin to be happy." - Ajahn Chah
"Know and watch your heart. It’s pure but emotions come to colour it." — Ajahn Chah

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Postby manas » Tue May 22, 2012 1:48 am

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Postby bodom » Tue May 22, 2012 1:59 am

Goofaholix wrote:
bodom wrote:Meditation is like....sitting on an ant hill.


A Texas zafu.


Ha! And we have those big red fire ants!

:anjali:
The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue May 22, 2012 2:23 am

Greetings,

Meditation is like watching.

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Postby kirk5a » Tue May 22, 2012 2:27 am

Meditation is like trying to swim to the surface while chained to an iron ball.

Not meditating is like drowning.

eesh. That doesn't sound very inspiring...

Getting a breath is nice though! :D
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Postby Ben » Tue May 22, 2012 2:29 am

Rahula, develop meditation that is like earth,...
Rahula, develop meditation that is like water,...
Rahula, develop meditation that is like fire,...
Rahula, develop meditation that is like air,...
Rahula, develop meditation that is like space; for when you develop meditation that is like space, arisen agreeable disagreeable contacts will not invade your mind and remain.

-- Maharahulavada Sutta (MN62) trans. Bh Nanamoli and Bh Bodhi

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue May 22, 2012 2:31 am

Greetings,

Ben wrote:Rahula, develop meditation that is like space; for when you develop meditation that is like space, arisen agreeable disagreeable contacts will not invade your mind and remain. (MN 62)

:twothumbsup:

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Postby polarbuddha101 » Tue May 22, 2012 2:51 am

when distracted:

Meditation is like trying to listen to a hot girl whisper something important in your ear, but some big drunk guy keeps walking up and yelling, "hey, WTF. stop listening to that chick and come take some shots. don't be lame bro."

meditation is like standing atop a tall grassy hill listening to the cool relaxing breeze blow in your ears, but your big labrador retriever keeps running back to you with a stick and barking till you throw it again. Then you go back to the breeze and then the dog comes back again, etc etc

meditation is like sitting in class trying to pay attention to your teacher, but you keep getting distracted thinking about the awesome party you're going to afterwards, and you have to keep reminding yourself to pay attention to the teacher cause you have a test coming up

when not distracted:

meditation is like being a child staring at an ant hill, at first you just see the little dots running around, but then it's like zooming in with a camera and you realize the vast complexity of the ant colony, that they have a whole society and economy going on in miniature, and it gives you this mind blowing feeling like wooah and you just see ants ceaselessly coming and going, arising out of and disappearing back in to the ant hill, and you start feeling really good throughout your whole body just realizing how neat the anthill is and you feel like you could just sit there forever watching the ants, never blinking or turning your gaze, just totally immersed in the situation
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"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Postby tiltbillings » Tue May 22, 2012 5:41 am

Meditation is like . . . .

Trungpa once said that meditation is like a laxative.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Postby Goofaholix » Tue May 22, 2012 6:46 am

tiltbillings wrote:Meditation is like . . . .

Trungpa once said that meditation is like a laxative.


No shit?
"Proper effort is not the effort to make something particular happen. It is the effort to be aware and awake each moment." - Ajahn Chah
"When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness. When we stop clinging, we can begin to be happy." - Ajahn Chah
"Know and watch your heart. It’s pure but emotions come to colour it." — Ajahn Chah

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Postby tiltbillings » Tue May 22, 2012 7:43 am

Goofaholix wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:Meditation is like . . . .

Trungpa once said that meditation is like a laxative.


No shit?
So it would seem. Enlightenment would be like a clean colon.

There is the Hatha Yoga axiom: "If your colon is right, your mind is right." And that is the straight poop on that.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Postby David2 » Tue May 22, 2012 9:56 am

Meditation is like... mediation between yourself and reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediation

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Postby SDC » Tue May 22, 2012 3:54 pm

Meditation is like untangling Christmas lights.

For those that have had the pleasure.


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