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In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

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In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby ericmattingly » Fri May 25, 2012 2:46 am

Hey folks, here's a silly question that for some reason I cannot find an answer to.

On amazon.com there are the famous Wisdom Publications translations of certain Pali discourses and I'm thinking about buying one (In the Buddha's Words) to dip my toes into. I understand that this volume represents no traditional Buddhist text (or collection of texts), but is an anthology. My question involves the others. Are these other books each discrete sets of discourses-- that is, do they each have their own suttas with no or very little repetitions from the others? If I dig "In the Buddha's Words" and decide, say, to buy the Middle-length discourses is there any reason to later purchase the Long and Connected discourses (and, apparently, the forthcoming Numbered ones)? I guess what I'm asking is what the textual history of these collections is. Have they been compiled out of the Sutta Pitaka by the editors and translators, or do they have a deeper history? What is a "connected" discourse, and why are the others not connected? What about the smaller discourses? etc., and so on. I'm sure the books themselves explain it all very thoroughly, but I must spend my money wisely these days, and it mostly goes to food and gas.

Vale,
eric

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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby Kim OHara » Fri May 25, 2012 3:36 am

Hi, Eric,
In the Buddha's Words is good - go for it!
After that, there is a whole shelf-full of suttas. The Christians make do with just one book, but we get lots - forty years' worth of teachings, not just a couple.
While you're reading ITBW, find your way around Access to Insight. Starting points:



Happy hunting! :smile:

:namaste:
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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby hanzze_ » Fri May 25, 2012 5:12 am

If it is "THE WORD OF THE BUDDHA, An outline of the teachings of the Buddha in the Words of the Pali Canon" you might be able to get it also from . It's a little more a Dana wheel. You might find also other good books there.

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Postby cooran » Fri May 25, 2012 9:22 am

Hello Alobha,

Maybe you mean: http://theravada-dhamma.org/page2/page4 ... ge169.html ?

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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Fri May 25, 2012 4:46 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby ericmattingly » Fri May 25, 2012 6:26 pm

Thanks everyone. I have a much better idea of what these collections are now. I'll definitely start with In the Buddha's Words, then go from there. I like the suggestion that I read each Sutta three times. I think I'll make that part of my practice. It's interesting, most of my reading in Buddhism has been in the zen tradition, and while there is some good stuff out there (especially Dogen) I find myself hungry (?) for the actual Suttas. I've been reading "What the Buddha Taught" and it has really gotten me interested in the Theravada perspective. Once more, you guys and gals have my thanks.

vale,
eric

P.S. that "Building a Sutta Library" list is very well put together. I'm going to keep that in mind for the future.

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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

Postby mikenz66 » Fri May 25, 2012 9:15 pm

Hi Eric,

You might also be interested in Bhikku Bodhi's talks based on In the Buddha's Words
See: http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2392

And when you get to the Majjhima Nikaya, there is a long series of talks on those suttas here:
http://bodhimonastery.org/a-systematic- ... ikaya.html
In fact, it was organising those talks that led him to assemble In the Buddha's Words.

The discussions, and particularly answers to questions, in those lectures are often very interesting.

Since the suttas are an oral medium I like to listen rather than just read, so do check out the resources here: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/outsourc ... tml#suttas

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Re: In the Interest of Exposing my Ignorance

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