The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

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The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby pink_trike » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:07 am

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:38 am

i remember haikuin (i know he's zen not theravada but anyways) saying something about anyone can go off an meditate alone in a nice place, the real work is maintaining that in the city/crowds
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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby Prasadachitta » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:43 pm

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby kc2dpt » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:33 pm

aspire - direct one's hopes or ambitions toward achieving something

aspirate - pronounce (a sound) with an exhalation of breath

however...

aspirational - the adjective form of aspiration which is the noun form of aspire, not aspirate

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby kc2dpt » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:36 pm

I think the idea of that retreat sounds productive. It's really not much more than talking to your teacher about how to improve your practice in every day life. Except in this case it's an organized activity with many people participating at once.
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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:59 pm

It's not really that new. Many Dhamma centers in the U.S. have been doing that for some years now. For example, a very popular retreat in many U.S. cities is the day-long retreat. Participants come in the morning, meditate, listen to Dhamma talks, have personal interviews with the teacher if necessary, lunch, more meditation, talks, and then it ends at about 5 to 8 pm in the evening.

Some have stretched that to two to three days, with some participants going back to their homes and others staying at the center. I think it is a great way to adapt to modern life and to include the Dhamma in everyday life.

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:16 pm

Hi
I know (cant remember the name of the centre) a centre in london, which use to be a court house runs retreats and the retreatants, can live onsite in one of the old cells, or go home and come back in the morning.
I did meet someone who done the non-residential side, and will have a look for the centre, all I remember is that it is a Tibetan group don't think it is FPMT but may be affiliated.


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:29 pm

Here is the site
http://www.jamyang.co.uk/aboutus.html

stumbled into the london buddhist centre to start with and noticed they do the Urban retreats also


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

Postby pink_trike » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:20 am

A bit of word trivia: The words "aspire", "inspire" and "expire" are all expansions of the latin "spirare" which means "to breathe". Quality inspiration and aspiration both tend to naturally arise with conscious breathing which is undefiled by the tension's of mind that get played out in the somatic environment.

And with our final "expire" we no longer "in-spire" or "in-breathe". We are expired.
Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

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Re: The concept of an "Urban Retreat"

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