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which sutta?

Postby mlswe » Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 pm

anyone know the sutta which has similies for the noble eightfold path with sati as gatekeeper and samadhi as food supply or something like that?

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Cittasanto » Mon May 14, 2012 8:50 pm

mlswe wrote:anyone know the sutta which has similies for the noble eightfold path with sati as gatekeeper and samadhi as food supply or something like that?

Kind regards


Hi,
Try this sutta

AN 7.63 Nagara Sutta: The Fortress
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Re: which sutta?

Postby Sam Vara » Mon May 14, 2012 8:52 pm

Sounds a bit like the Nagara Sutta (The Fortress) but it gives seven qualities rather than the N8FP

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Sam Vara » Mon May 14, 2012 8:58 pm

Or it might be this one

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

but still no N8FP in there...

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Re: which sutta?

Postby befriend » Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 pm

how very happily we live, we who have nothing, we will feed on rapture like the radiant gods." not sure where thats from but prior to that awesome ending is how very happily we live amongst miserable people, among miserable people free from misery we dwell etc....

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Re: which sutta?

Postby mikenz66 » Mon May 14, 2012 10:24 pm

See also:

SN 35.204 Kimsuka Sutta: The Riddle Tree
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"Suppose, monk, that there were a royal frontier fortress with strong walls & ramparts and six gates. In it would be a wise, experienced, intelligent gatekeeper to keep out those he didn't know and to let in those he did. A swift pair of messengers, coming from the east, would say to the gatekeeper, 'Where, my good man, is the commander of this fortress?' He would say, 'There he is, sirs, sitting in the central square.' The swift pair of messengers, delivering their accurate report to the commander of the fortress, would then go back by the route by which they had come. Then a swift pair of messengers, coming from the west... the north... the south, would say to the gatekeeper, 'Where, my good man, is the commander of this fortress?' He would say, 'There he is, sirs, sitting in the central square.' The swift pair of messengers, delivering their accurate report to the commander of the fortress, would then go back by the route by which they had come.

"I have given you this simile, monk, to convey a message. The message is this: The fortress stands for this body — composed of four elements, born of mother & father, nourished with rice & barley gruel, subject to constant rubbing & abrasion, to breaking & falling apart. The six gates stand for the six internal sense media. The gatekeeper stands for mindfulness. The swift pair of messengers stands for tranquillity (samatha) and insight (vipassana). The commander of the fortress stands for consciousness. The central square stands for the four great elements: the earth-property, the liquid-property, the fire-property, & the wind-property. The accurate report stands for Unbinding (nibbana). The route by which they had come stands for the noble eightfold path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration."

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Re: which sutta?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue May 15, 2012 7:22 am

If the ones mentioned above are not the ones you are looking for, try looking through the Samyutta Nikaya chapter 45 on the path, first chapter in book 5 of the PTS editions http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .html#sn45 or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision
or possibly Angutara nikaya book of 8's http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... x.html#an8 or http://suttacentral.net/disp_sutta.php? ... ubdivision
With the second links for each just click on the flag of the language and it sends you to the translation sometimes this is to a text of the first link.
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Re: which sutta?

Postby mlswe » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:48 pm

on reflecting, that it was similes of the the N8FP was just an assumption,

didn´t know exactly what i was looking for

But i think Nagara Sutta was it

thanks for your help and for keeping the good wheel turning :)

all the best / ML


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