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by marc108 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:41 pm
Does anyone here practice Qigong? I've been thinking about taking it up and was wondering if anyone could recommend specific teachers, books, etc?
“The unawakened mind tends to make war against the way things are. To follow a path with heart, we must understand the whole process of making war within ourselves and without, how it begins and how it ends."
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by daverupa » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:54 pm
I recommend Yang, Jwing-Ming for a solid foundation; he's published prolific amounts on the topic, and it's all of rather high quality.
Keep your tongue up...

"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
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by danieLion » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:33 pm
daverupa wrote:I recommend Yang, Jwing-Ming for a solid foundation; he's published prolific amounts on the topic, and it's all of rather high quality.
Keep your tongue up...

Hi marc108, daverupa,
I like Jing-Mings books too. Lots of diagrams, pictures, explanations, etc.... I also like Kenneth Cohen's
The Way of Qigong: The Art and Science of Chinese Energy Healing. While it's more theory based than Jing-Mings works, it's still got a lot of great exercise advice too. Many acupuncturists are also trained in Qigong (this is where I get most of my instruction and do my fine tuning), so you might think about looking for one as Qigong teachers are kind of rare in most parts (but they do exist and if you find a good one, you're way ahead of the curve).
Are you interested in active Qigong, visualization, or both?
metta
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'
I laff."
-Aleister Crowley,
Magick Without Tears,
Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
-Paul Feyerbend,
The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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by marc108 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:38 am
thank you all for the recs

danieLion wrote:Are you interested in active Qigong, visualization, or both?
whats the difference? I've practice Pranayama for some time, i'm interested in comparing it to the other Asian methods of energy work so I would like to know the real nitty gritty stuff of how, where, why etc.
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by danieLion » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:07 am
marc108 wrote:thank you all for the recs

danieLion wrote:Are you interested in active Qigong, visualization, or both?
whats the difference? I've practice Pranayama for some time, i'm interested in comparing it to the other Asian methods of energy work so I would like to know the real nitty gritty stuff of how, where, why etc.
Hi marc108,
Not an official authority, so don't take this as the Qigong gospel, but the difference basically boils down to movement (active) versus while still/without /(non-active). All Qigong, AKFAIK, involves at least breath visualization at the (lower) dantian. I practiced pranayama for several years when I was younger, but have not tried it with Qigong. The literature referenced above should help with the nitty gritty. If you're interested in details, I could tell you what I do specifically, but don't know of any other way to help you with the nit and grit. I think the good old fashioned trial and error method (or it's fancy version, the experimental method) are you're best bet in figuring out what's going to work for you.
In general I think Qigong is great for samatha, but I'm having trouble seeing if it as directly relevant to vipassana as, say, jhana practice is. I only mention this to allude to the fact that a lot of finding what works also depends on your purposes.
metta
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'
I laff."
-Aleister Crowley,
Magick Without Tears,
Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
-Paul Feyerbend,
The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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by marc108 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:40 pm
sure, i would like to hear specifics about your own practice
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