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Favouring Mahāsāṃghika Scriptures

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Favouring Mahāsāṃghika Scriptures

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Postby Alex123 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:37 pm

Hello Huseng, all,

Are there Mahāsāṃghika suttas translated into English? Other than difference regarding Devadatta, Fallibility (?) of Arhats, Transcendental Buddha, what are the doctrinal differences? Thanks.

As for idea of the Buddha. To me, Gotama as being an ordinary human until Buddhahood, is FAR MORE inspiring than the idea that He was some transcendental Being (God?) who only pretended to be unawakened. It also appears that Buddha didn't know about electricity, how weather works, what causes eclipses, geology/history.


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Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:22 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby daverupa » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:05 pm

I'm unaware of any large differences other than a few extra Sutras which involve emptiness in uncommon ways, vinaya, and abhidhamma. Very little doctrinal difference sticks out to me, but I'm not very well-read here.

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Postby Way~Farer » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:50 am

The criticisms of the arahats was also characteristic of the early Mahayana (although I seem to recall, their criticisms included that they could still suffer nocturnal emissions, i.e. wet dreams). Was there a relationship between the Mahāsāṃghika and early Mahayana, or is that also something that not known?

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