A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

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A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby manas » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:44 pm

Hi all,

memories that arise in the mind, memories of long ago: these are classified under sankhara-khanda, yes?

Here is where I'm a bit confused. A memory arises, which is a 'formation', a 'mental fashioning'. But I can have either a pleasant feeling associated with that memory, or a painful feeling, or a neutral feeling. So - the memory itself is sankhara, but the feeling(s) that come up alongside it are vedana, yes?

For example, we might remember being a child, walking in the yard of our home. Recollecting that, there is a happy feeling. The memory and the happy feeling seem to arise together, but they are actually separate things, are they not?

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Re: A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby Alex123 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:39 pm

Hello Manas,

1) All 4 mental aggregates arise together. You can't have one mental aggregate arise without the others.

2) If I am not mistaken, memory as just memory, is mostly saññā khandha.
I was not; I was; I am not; I do not care."
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Re: A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby Dmytro » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:30 am

Hi Manas,

manas wrote:For example, we might remember being a child, walking in the yard of our home. Recollecting that, there is a happy feeling.


In such a case, feeling arises due to the contact (phassa) on the sixth sense door, intellect (mano).

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Re: A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby pegembara » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:48 pm

Vedana, sanna and vinnana khandhas are "passive". Sanna is perception ie. a knowing which is a form of memory. These 3 are in a way not under volitional formations which is "active" as in having an intention. The 1st try is happening to us while sankhara is a doing as in thinking of the past.
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Re: A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby manas » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:34 pm

Thanks for the replies. I can see that I have to now go and study much more.

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Re: A question re sankhara-khandha & vedana-khandha

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:51 pm

Hi all,

Could it not be 'dhamma' at the mind door?

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