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Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri May 04, 2012 1:37 am

The possibility of people reaching arya states, without jhana doesn't mean that all people can do that. The universal path, i.e., the noble 8fold path, includes jhana.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby Alex123 » Fri May 04, 2012 3:34 pm

Hello Geoff,

This is interesting. Does this suggest that 5 sense consciousness still function in Jhāna, but that they do not disturb the person in Jhāna?
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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby SamKR » Tue May 08, 2012 7:51 pm

This is a very useful thread. Are all of these ideas available directly in the website http://measurelessmind.ca/?

Ñāṇa, is your paper "Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas" completed and available online?

I am asking because I would prefer to read a whole paper rather than in discrete posts of a thread.

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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby Sylvester » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:11 am

Hi Dmytro

Thanks.

Why not the other 2 candidates?

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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby Sylvester » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:22 pm

Hi Dmytro

How about the other 5 old kamma in the Kamma Sutta, or perhaps the other 2 karajakāyā in the Karajakāya Sutta, AN 10.5.1.9?

The Commentary is uncharacteristically vague on this point, methinks. I wonder why the physical body might have been understood as being saturated with pītisukha born of seclusion, since these states are not phoṭṭhabba and, therefore cannot possibly make contact with kāya.

What do you make of this?

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